[2K9R56S]

AND...  Why the hell didn't I go balanced sooner?

 

[Makiah S]

Absolutely.  It will be a while though.  They arrived at Lawton Audio today, and he said there's about a 4 week turnaround.

whats he charging

 

[Makiah S]

AND...  Why the hell didn't I go balanced sooner?

its expensive xD

 

[2K9R56S]

whats he charging

 
 
It was $317 total.  10ft of their Copper One cable and a 4-pin XLR was $298, and return shipping was $19.

 

[DefQon]

That's very expensive. 

 

[Makiah S]

   
 
It was $317 total.  10ft of their Copper One cable and a 4-pin XLR was $298, and return shipping was $19.

 
yeap. I think I'll stick with Zombie_X

 

[baronbeehive]

   
 
I changed the gain back to low.  Now the maximum is between 80 and 90.  And the buzz is completely gone.  Even at 80 they're still louder than what the WA6 could do with them.
 
Are you using the stock tubes?

 
Yes the buzz went when I switched from my Audio Technica ATH AD2000's to the HD600's on low gain. However listening on balanced outputs now, instead of single ended, the buzz has completely gone, so I think it was associated with the single ended wiring. I've settled on my long term tube set which are Bendix/Tungsol 6080WB's and Tungsol 6SL7GT round plate tubes. I see little need to try anything else for the type of sound I want, ie warm, smooth, balanced, detailed bass, silky treble and good soudstage.

 

[Makiah S]

   
Yes the buzz went when I switched from my Audio Technica ATH AD2000's to the HD600's on low gain. However listening on balanced outputs now, instead of single ended, the buzz has completely gone, so I think it was associated with the single ended wiring. I've settled on my long term tube set which are Bendix/Tungsol 6080WB's and Tungsol 6SL7GT round plate tubes. I see little need to try anything else for the type of sound I want, ie warm, smooth, balanced, detailed bass, silky treble and good soudstage.

 
Tung Sols are notorious for Balanced, Sound Stage and Silky Airy Highs! I definatly want to drop some TS into my MKVI+ when I do get it 

 

[2K9R56S]

   
yeap. I think I'll stick with Zombie_X

 
 
Considering the length and the labor involved their price wasn't bad compared to the other places I looked.

 

[2K9R56S]

   
Tung Sols are notorious for Balanced, Sound Stage and Silky Airy Highs! I definatly want to drop some TS into my MKVI+ when I do get it

 
I ordered a pair of these today:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tung-Sol-6SL7GT-Cryo-Treated-Matched-Pair-Vacuum-Tubes-/380343675925?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item588e3fec15
 
And these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-NOS-RCA-JAN-CRC-6AS7G-4-TUBES-Identical-date-codes-Matched-quad-Amplitrex-/321198695003?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4ac8ef225b&nma=true&si=ZKD%252B3got6Q31uAwXNmd4nf%252B69As%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
So we'll see how they perform.
 
I'm a little skeptical on the 60 year old RCA's.

 

[DefQon]

The older the better but don't believe the ******** when sellers on fleabay say that an 40 - 50's RCA sound on par with some of the other top range tubes, RCA's are all the same (same with GE) until you get a coin base tall ladder 6SN7 which are probably the best RCA's you can get for the 6SN7 family.

 

[elwappo99]

  That's very expensive. 

 
Yea, that's shockingly expensive.
 
If you really want to commit to balanced audio, you should really learn how to solder. Otherwise it's easy pickins for these cable guys. 

 

[baronbeehive]

   
I ordered a pair of these today:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tung-Sol-6SL7GT-Cryo-Treated-Matched-Pair-Vacuum-Tubes-/380343675925?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item588e3fec15
 
And these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-NOS-RCA-JAN-CRC-6AS7G-4-TUBES-Identical-date-codes-Matched-quad-Amplitrex-/321198695003?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4ac8ef225b&nma=true&si=ZKD%252B3got6Q31uAwXNmd4nf%252B69As%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
So we'll see how they perform.
 
I'm a little skeptical on the 60 year old RCA's.

You should be fine with the RCA 6AS7G's, they're great, cheap tubes and only slightly inferior to the Bendix, for example. You would notice a difference on close listening but they're pretty  good. I would try to get some round plate black glass Tungsol 6SL7's as that construction gives the best SQ on a par with the 6SN7's, in fact I can't tell any difference. Re the RCA 6SN7's, they are great easy listening tubes with good warmth and definition, though not the best. They used to be my favourite all rounders. I would disagree with DefQon to some extent regarding the older the better. I think modern versions of some tubes can be better sound wise though not necessarily construction wise. I remember having some gray glass vt21's which people rave about and I didn't rate them at all. Since when I've heard there is much disagreement about this, and also much variablilty in these tubes, but I much preferred the cheap, modern GTB's.

 

[john57]

I agree with Baronbeehive, larger differences are with the driver tubes

 

[alota]

  I agree with Baronbeehive, larger differences are with the driver tubes

 
+1. and sometime a matched quartet of power tubes is expensive