[markm1]

Neither do I. I have tried, and tired, and tired, I just don't get it. And I consider all of you friends with impeccable taste in music!

Can someone point me to a song that I might like? Please?

I started listening to them last year and I like them. Do you like the weirder, experimental side of Neurosis, Isis and Sun0))? Do you like non metal drone like Godspeed! You Black Emperor?  Do you like Brian Eno-minimalistic ambient, electronic music. If not-they are probably not for you.
 
They pretty much invented drone as far as I can tell on the non metal side. They are experimental and weird. I think you have to have patience and interest in avant garde, long drone.
 
 
The  entire Seer album is the way to start. But, it's a double disc two-plus hour emersion. To "get" them, you need to commit to listening to an entire album as a sort of soundscape listening experience.They create repetitive, almost trance like inducing drone that for some is compelling. I'm sure a lot of people hate them and find them awful.
 
Tom Jurek, music critic  from Allumusic writes:  The Seer is the most sprawling, ambitious, thoughtfully conceived and tightly performed recording in the band's catalog -- also not hyperbole -- over two discs, two hours, and 11 tracks. And it is not an endurance test, but an argument for compulsive listening. It's an exquisitely wrought journey through post-rock, electronic soundscapes, haunting acoustic songs, punishing noise, and (lots of) percussion. Given its length, it takes its time getting there, but when the chaos and world-shaking begin, the band leans full-on into the abyss to deliver a nearly frightening conclusion; Gira employs the full range of his powerful voice in the heart of the maelstrom before a stampede of drums pushes the track out onto other side of oblivion. The Seer is unquestionably a work of ecstatic beauty; it encompasses everything because it is everything. It references the aesthetic developed by Swans, and moves it past current musical boundaries and onto a new sonic frontier, where they stand, as they have always stood, alone.
 
So yeah-it's left of field and not for everyone. I think Neurosis is a good starting point from a metal perspective. Can you deal with their long, 10 minute plus mini epics? Well multiply that by two hours and take out most of the metal.
 
And, yes, I'm aware it's not metal-so spare me the "this has no business on a metal discussion" flames people.
 
That's my answer to your question.
 
Peace.

 

[Kirnupiima]

^Good post. They are very metal to me. Trance-inducing, extremely heavy momentum-based songs.

 

[Redcarmoose]

  I'm dead serious!
The only kind of Death Metal I like is Tech/Prog Death.
Entombed, Cannibal Corpse, Six Feet Under, Morbid Angel, Master, Devourment etc etc are just not for me.

What
 

 

[Trogdor]

I started listening to them last year and I like them. Do you like the weirder, experimental side of Neurosis, Isis and Sun0))? Do you like non metal drone like Godspeed! You Black Emperor?  Do you like Brian Eno-minimalistic ambient, electronic music. If not-they are probably not for you.

They pretty much invented drone as far as I can tell on the non metal side. They are experimental and weird. I think you have to have patience and interest in avant garde, long drone.


The  entire Seer album is the way to start. But, it's a double disc two-plus hour emersion. To "get" them, you need to commit to listening to an entire album as a sort of soundscape listening experience.They create repetitive, almost trance like inducing drone that for some is compelling. I'm sure a lot of people hate them and find them awful.

Tom Jurek, music critic  from Allumusic writes:  [COLOR=0066CC]The Seer[/COLOR] is the most sprawling, ambitious, thoughtfully conceived and tightly performed recording in the band's catalog -- also not hyperbole -- over two discs, two hours, and 11 tracks. And it is not an endurance test, but an argument for compulsive listening. It's an exquisitely wrought journey through post-rock, electronic soundscapes, haunting acoustic songs, punishing noise, and (lots of) percussion. Given its length, it takes its time getting there, but when the chaos and world-shaking begin, the band leans full-on into the abyss to deliver a nearly frightening conclusion; [COLOR=0066CC]Gira[/COLOR] employs the full range of his powerful voice in the heart of the maelstrom before a stampede of drums pushes the track out onto other side of oblivion. [COLOR=0066CC]The Seer[/COLOR] is unquestionably a work of ecstatic beauty; it encompasses everything because it is everything. It references the aesthetic developed by [COLOR=0066CC]Swans[/COLOR], and moves it past current musical boundaries and onto a new sonic frontier, where they stand, as they have always stood, alone.

So yeah-it's left of field and not for everyone. I think Neurosis is a good starting point from a metal perspective. Can you deal with their long, 10 minute plus mini epics? Well multiply that by two hours and take out most of the metal.

And, yes, I'm aware it's not metal-so spare me the "this has no business on a metal discussion" flames people.

That's my answer to your question.

Peace.

mark1m, thanks a bunch for the detailed explanation above. Really, hats off!

I will give it a shot. I promise you. I have a new toy showing up on Wednesday (not a loaner, something I actually bought and have waited almost 6 months for) and will give this a go.

 

[Trogdor]

I'm dead serious!

The only kind of Death Metal I like is Tech/Prog Death.

Entombed, Cannibal Corpse, Six Feet Under, Morbid Angel, Master, Devourment etc etc are just not for me.

That's cool Tom. It's just strange to see the words "Bolt Thrower," "Carcass," and "Vader" in a sentence that begins with "I don't like..."

So you are an Origin, Gorguts, Beyond Creation, Obscura kind of guy?

Does this float your boat?

 

[markm1]

mark1m, thanks a bunch for the detailed explanation above. Really, hats off!

I will give it a shot. I promise you. I have a new toy showing up on Wednesday (not a loaner, something I actually bought and have waited almost 6 months for) and will give this a go.

NP-I don't really know why I like them so much. I guess I just like unusual music.  I find them really compelling. But, I know it's not for everyone. Ask my wife

 

[Tom Yum Goong]

That's cool Tom. It's just strange to see the words "Bolt Thrower," "Carcass," and "Vader" in a sentence that begins with "I don't like..."

So you are an Origin, Gorguts, Beyond Creation, Obscura kind of guy?

Does this float your boat?

Different folks, different strokes! Even though a few of the aforementioned bands seem to be must-listen-to ones for Metal aficionados

Yes, I totally am.

Oooohhh I was actually looking for that band for some time now! First listened to this album on their BC page one or two months ago and forgot their name for some reason.
Thanks!

 

[Tom Yum Goong]

I love one-man Black metal bands.
This one is especially stupid/awesome:



Jup! Some of the most important Jazz tracks reinterpreted as super quirky low-fi-ish Black Metal!
I do prefer the original versions of these songs (especially this one here and My Favorite Things) but this is also pretty neat.

http://melichrone.bandcamp.com/

 

[ferday]

NP-I don't really know why I like them so much. I guess I just like unusual music.  I find them really compelling. But, I know it's not for everyone. Ask my wife :tongue_smile:

The seer is unlike most of the swans catalog (except ...rope...). Their early stuff is pure no -wave violent noise. I enjoyed the seer immensely, although I think my favorite swans is soundtracks for the blind. I'm excited to check the new one, although it has way less fanfare than the seer did

 

[markm1]

The seer is unlike most of the swans catalog (except ...rope...). Their early stuff is pure no -wave violent noise. I enjoyed the seer immensely, although I think my favorite swans is soundtracks for the blind. I'm excited to check the new one, although it has way less fanfare than the seer did

+1 for the Soundtracks for the Blind. That's probably my #2....more ambient...really cool album.
 
I haven't heard the really early  noice rock stuff.

 

[Tom Yum Goong]

First teaser is out
The cover looks super cool!

 

[wrathzombie]

  I love one-man Black metal bands.
This one is especially stupid/awesome:



Jup! Some of the most important Jazz tracks reinterpreted as super quirky low-fi-ish Black Metal!
I do prefer the original versions of these songs (especially this one here and My Favorite Things) but this is also pretty neat.

http://melichrone.bandcamp.com/

this is awesome

 

[Redcarmoose]

That's cool Tom. It's just strange to see the words "Bolt Thrower," "Carcass," and "Vader" in a sentence that begins with "I don't like..."

So you are an Origin, Gorguts, Beyond Creation, Obscura kind of guy?

Does this float your boat?

 
 
 
THX Trog!

 

[Redcarmoose]

They released another Judas Priest song today. I'm thinking the new album is going to suck. Too bad they didn't stop making records already.

 

[Trogdor]

First teaser is out

The cover looks super cool!

I love one-man Black metal bands.

This one is especially stupid/awesome:





Jup! Some of the most important Jazz tracks reinterpreted as super quirky low-fi-ish Black Metal!

I do prefer the original versions of these songs (especially this one here and My Favorite Things) but this is also pretty neat.

http://melichrone.bandcamp.com/

Tom, its about time to have your blind blown....you're due.

Let me know.