Lake People G111 - Headphone Amp
Sep 19, 2023 at 11:44 PM Post #76 of 107
Set the PRE-GAIN to +6dB for the HD650s and -6dB for the HD660s. If PRE-GAIN is set well, it opens up the soundstage a lot.
I did experiment with that, ended up liking both the HD 650 and HD 660S more with +6 pre-gain and actually like the amp in general with most of my headphones more at +6. Curious how things will change as I try different DACs with the G111.
 
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Sep 20, 2023 at 11:15 AM Post #77 of 107
The G111 MKII is an amplifier that leaves you amazed by how it sounds. I use the MMB DAC. I had the HD660s for about a year and I didn't like them, they were too tiring. The HD650 and G111 MKII are a fantastic match. I sold the G111 MKII, but I will buy it again as soon as possible. I have the V200 and honestly I could easily live with the G111 lMKII (a monster of audio quality).
 
Oct 18, 2023 at 12:20 PM Post #78 of 107
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Dec 28, 2023 at 3:23 AM Post #81 of 107
Don't bother, look for another DAC instead if at all.
 
Dec 28, 2023 at 10:26 AM Post #83 of 107
Schiit Modi Multibit 2
 
Dec 28, 2023 at 12:01 PM Post #85 of 107
I was able to pick up the G111 Mk1 for $280 recently and paired it up with my JDS Element lll Mk2 Dac/Amp as my dac. Wow you could really hear the upgrade in dynamic sound on the low and and Improved imaging. Love this Amp.
Is the G111 v2 a big improvement or a modest upgrade?

Congrats! Lake People's amps have been consistently excellent IME. I agree with @Fegefeuer that your next move should likely be a DAC upgrade. Depending on your budget even something like the Schiit Bifrost 2 is a pretty good match to the G111 and will be a noticeably step up from the Element's DAC. Geshelli J2S w/ Sparkos op amps (either 4493 or 4499) are also excellent options.

To answer your question...the mk2 is a somewhat substantial upgrade over the mk1 to my ears, especially in midbass control. Is it worth shelling out $550 for it in your current situation? Probably not. I'd say get a nice DAC and then save up again for a bigger amp upgrade after that (assuming you have headphones you like and want to keep using).
 
Dec 28, 2023 at 12:10 PM Post #86 of 107
Congrats! Lake People's amps have been consistently excellent IME. I agree with @Fegefeuer that your next move should likely be a DAC upgrade. Depending on your budget even something like the Schiit Bifrost 2 is a pretty good match to the G111 and will be a noticeably step up from the Element's DAC. Geshelli J2S w/ Sparkos op amps (either 4493 or 4499) are also excellent options.

To answer your question...the mk2 is a somewhat substantial upgrade over the mk1 to my ears, especially in midbass control. Is it worth shelling out $550 for it in your current situation? Probably not. I'd say get a nice DAC and then save up again for a bigger amp upgrade after that (assuming you have headphones you like and want to keep using).
Thanks, It was your review that made me get the G111 when I saw it for sale, and can say I don't regret it. I'm very pleased with the amp and I am currently selling My Element lll Mk2 in the classifieds, to raise money for an the Dac.
 
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Jan 8, 2024 at 9:01 AM Post #88 of 107
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Jan 8, 2024 at 9:31 AM Post #89 of 107
Jan 8, 2024 at 9:54 AM Post #90 of 107
I just purchased the G105 mk2 from Amazon for $499 it's $499 everywhere else, but same specs as G111 mk2 which I originally ordered then canceled. They are exactly the same except for balance knob and extra switches on the face.
Same soundwise.

You can see them compared here. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/comp...r/BHitems/1736783-REG_1736785-REG_1736784-REG
I looked into this at some length a while ago when trying to decide between the various Lake People amps. The G111 is discrete, but the lower-numbered amps (G103, 105, 108) are all based around Burr Brown OPA511 op-amps. G105 is the single-ended version of the G108. G103 is a bit different as it has a different, less powerful power supply, but also has OPA511 op-amps (I recently had one and opened it up to check).

This review has some photos of the G108 internals: https://www.alpha-audio.net/review/...8-headphone-amplifier-deutsche-grundlichkeit/
 

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