Dec 2, 2014 at 6:02 PM Post #1,471 of 4,084
   
All Modern Stax have the 5 pins connector. Here's the part you can buy http://www.moon-audio.com/stax-cable-mount-5-pin-din.html# . 
 
 
 

Thanks. I found that in a search I did a while back. What I wasn't sure of is if the plug just pushes in and is held by the pins, or if the Stax connector on the amp is supposed to snap/lock, like a typical XLR. I don't have a Stax amp yet to check.  If there's no locking then I think the moon-audio connector should work.
 
Dec 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM Post #1,472 of 4,084
The Moon audio plug is made of 2 parts, the Amphenol plug pin insert with the 6th pin cut off and a metal body that is attached to the plastic Amphenol part with a screw.

It goes right into the STAX amp, no latching mechanism

If you are using this connector, watch out for the metal part, I use 2 layers of heatshrink between the pins and the body.

The Koss extension is a much cheaper alternative @$20,I ordered an extra one with my ESP950 but you have to call them it is not on the webstore.
Cut off the appropriate end and solder on the Moonaudio connector
 
Dec 2, 2014 at 8:36 PM Post #1,473 of 4,084
The Moon audio plug is made of 2 parts, the Amphenol plug pin insert with the 6th pin cut off and a metal body that is attached to the plastic Amphenol part with a screw.

It goes right into the STAX amp, no latching mechanism

If you are using this connector, watch out for the metal part, I use 2 layers of heatshrink between the pins and the body.

The Koss extension is a much cheaper alternative @$20,I ordered an extra one with my ESP950 but you have to call them it is not on the webstore.
Cut off the appropriate end and solder on the Moonaudio connector


If anyone decides to do this as a batch, I'd be interested in participating... in case I buy an esp-950... haha
 
Dec 2, 2014 at 11:33 PM Post #1,474 of 4,084
Something really simple that could be done is to have PCBs adapters made.  Basically a small rectangular board with two sets of holes on it (input from Koss and output for Stax) with traces connecting the correct pins to each other.  Screw neutrik pins onto the Stax portion and plug into the Stax amp.  The most difficult part would be cutting off the little plastic shroud on the Koss connector, but that'd be easy enough with a dremel.  The PCBs would be dirt cheap if you got enough of them made.  No soldering, wires, extension cables, etc needed.
biggrin.gif

 
Dec 3, 2014 at 1:43 AM Post #1,475 of 4,084
The Moon audio plug is made of 2 parts, the Amphenol plug pin insert with the 6th pin cut off and a metal body that is attached to the plastic Amphenol part with a screw.

It goes right into the STAX amp, no latching mechanism

If you are using this connector, watch out for the metal part, I use 2 layers of heatshrink between the pins and the body.

The Koss extension is a much cheaper alternative @$20,I ordered an extra one with my ESP950 but you have to call them it is not on the webstore.
Cut off the appropriate end and solder on the Moonaudio connector

 
Well the price is right. slightly surprising to me that they actually found a cable version of that plug, all i could find for years was a chassis version. 
 
The center pin pulls out pretty easily if you grab it with pliers. 
 
I wish someone would sell a good-but-not-crazy cable mount plug. I'm well aware of products that existed at some point and may exist now that involved pins that were turned from pure silver stock. Not interested. 
 
But the amphenol plug is only just alright. The diameter of the pins is a little bit small. 
 
Dec 3, 2014 at 9:38 PM Post #1,477 of 4,084
  Anybody who purchased ESP-950 during Koss 40% off Cyber Monday gotten a shipping confirmation email yet?


I got one today. But only after I got a call from a Koss sales rep to verify my order was legit. He made it sound like that was pretty typical with a big $$$ order.
 
Dec 4, 2014 at 2:07 PM Post #1,478 of 4,084
I got one today. But only after I got a call from a Koss sales rep to verify my order was legit. He made it sound like that was pretty typical with a big $$$ order. 

I called Customer Service and got my issue resolved. Phone call is for consumer protection but they hadn't gotten around to contacting me yet (despite more than 72 hrs. since I placed order online). Anyway, for the delay they agreed to give me an extra 7 days to evaluate product so I'll have 37 days to return it if I'm not satisfied. Customer service rep was courteous and cooperative. Koss is an old-school company and I guess it just requires an extra bit of patience and understanding from the customer.        
 
Dec 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM Post #1,479 of 4,084
  Koss is an old-school company and I guess it just requires an extra bit of patience and understanding from the customer.        

That's exactly it. Anyone who's ever been to the warehouse "headquarters" in Milwaukee can see that they sort of operate like a larger-scale Grado. They're very people-oriented and their customer service is like working with a small business.
 
Dec 4, 2014 at 4:48 PM Post #1,480 of 4,084
Delivery was attempted today and I wasn't home. Koss requires a signature so keep that in mind. I'll pick mine up at the facility tomorrow.
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 9:34 PM Post #1,482 of 4,084
I've had my ESP-950's for almost a week now, and I thought I'd share my first impressions.
 
I ordered mine directly from Koss during their 40% off Cyber Monday sale. I had wanted to try a pair of electrostatic headphones after reading about their alleged virtues, and also as a longtime owner of many pairs of Magneplanar Loudspeakers. Magneplanars are NOT electrostatic but planar magnetic, yet both designs have similar sonic characteristics. In any case, I love the natural sound from these designs, and was hoping that electrostatic headphones would have a similar sound signature.
 
I own a number of mid-level dynamic headphones from Grado, Audio-Technica, Etymotic, and AKG. I've used AKG-K702s as my main headphones for several months now, driven by a Schiit Lyr 2 amp. I've been pretty happy with these headphones, but I was never able to get the same level of magic from them that I've gotten from any of my Magneplanars. So I started reading this Koss ESP thread a couple of months ago and some of the entry level Stax threads.
 
I really wanted to start with the Koss system for a couple of different reasons. The lifetime warranty, and the system also came with an amp. But I wasn't going to pay $1000 when you can get into a basic Stax system for $700-$800, and many consider it a better system. I've had more than one person mention that the Koss ESP's with an upgraded amp (Stax, KGSS, BHSE, etc) could offer world class sound, so I figured this would likely be the upgrade path I'd take. 
 
I unbox my ESP-950 system and the first thing I notice is that everything smells like Grandmas attic. Not really bad, but it was kinda musty. Then it occurred to me that these may have been sitting in the Koss warehouse for 20 years. The other tip was that it said made in the USA on the box. This is a good thing but it wouldn't be a shock to me if Koss confessed they hadn't had a new run of these for a very long time.
 
They come in a leather bag that looks like something you'd keep your SLR camera and a couple of lenses in. It's a nice touch but pretty worthless to me. The auxiliary battery pack to run the amp was probably a good idea 20 years ago, but not very practical. These headphones are light, but not exactly what I would consider portable. So the battery case, the included cables, and the storage bag all went back into the box and will probably go into storage, never to be seen again unless a repair is needed and I need the box again.
 
Others have mentioned the Koss energizer box is pretty cheesy. Yeah it kinda is. The RCA connections on the back are recessed, so good luck trying to connect boutique cables with large RCA plugs. I used a pair of SignalCable Silver Resolutions, and they barely fit in. Not a big deal, but this could be an issue for some people. The dual volume control wasn't a big issue either except you have to be careful to turn them up together else you lose where middle really is with the balance. I found myself adjusting one channel up slightly higher than the other. I'm not sure if it was because the two volume pots don't track identically, or for some reason I thought it sounded more correct to run the left side a little higher than the right. Who knows. There's no reference or way to tell.
 
Assuming these “earspeakers” need some time to break in the diaphragm, I probably have about 30 hours of run time on them so far, but less than 5 hours of actual listening. They seem to get a little better each time I listen. Whether that's real or imagined, you draw your own conclusions. My AKG-702s sounded like crap until I put probably 50 hours on them and then gradually got better up until 200 or 300 hrs. The Koss ESPs look cheap. Not terribly so, but they don't look like headphones that retail for $1000. I'm not too concerned because I'm not trying to impress anyone, but this could be be an issue for some people. I haven't held a pair of Stax for almost 30 yrs, so I don't have any way to compare if the comparably priced Stax look cheap or not. I'm guessing not, the upscale Japanese audio market tends to be kinda picky.
 
So finally the sound. Most of my listening has come in half to 1 hr sessions at a time....and why I think the break-in effect on these are real. The last couple of times I've listened to these I've come to appreciate the lack of coloration. The sound is really well balanced, and I would definitely choose these over my AKGs to mix a recording. It's just so much easier to isolate components of the music without them getting buried in the mix, like can happen with a more colored headphone. What really gets me is how really low level details are able to pop up through the mix. Not over exagerated or anything, but you just can finally hear them. This is something that my Magneplanar speakers do with the right source and amplification. I think so far what I had hoped to achieve by owning an electrostatic headphone has been successful. I can only imagine that they should get better with a little more time on them. Provided I don't detect any major handicaps with the Koss, I think I may be putting my AKG's up for sale in the future.
 
Side note - I also just realized how different my Mac music player apps sound. iTunes is now almost unlistenable. Fidelia is significantly better, and Audirvana is better yet. I could hear the differences before with other headphones but now it's night and day.
 
Dec 10, 2014 at 11:38 PM Post #1,483 of 4,084
Treble and mids are impressive to say the least.  Brand new so there's listening to be done.  Larry Carlton & Robben Ford Unplugged in 16/44 via Deezer Elite to the Beresford Caiman MkII DAC to the Koss...mighty fun.
 
 

 
 
 
biggrin.gif

 
HS
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 12:44 AM Post #1,484 of 4,084
Can't wait to get mine ... delivery is by Pony Express (Koss is an old company after all). In all seriousness, FedEx expected delivery date is tomorrow.
I was told by Koss Customer Service rep that mine was the first order they received on Cyber Monday so the long delay in processing is puzzling. Anyway, I hope my patience is rewarded as I really like the sound characteristics of electrostatics - I also have a set of older Stax Lambda which I've owned for over 20 years (as I recall they cost around $400 at the time). 
The first decent 'phones I ever bought - circa 1978 - were Audio-Technica ATH-6 electret condenser types (plugged into the speaker terminals of my Hafler DH-200 power amp - my DH-101 preamp didn't have a headphone jack).       
 
Dec 11, 2014 at 9:38 AM Post #1,485 of 4,084
I wonder if the energizer has changed over time? The one I borrowed did not have a dual control for L/R. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Koss changed that after some time. The person that loaned the system to me got it not too fat after Koss released it. He worked his way though college at a hifi shop next to my wine store. He told me at the time, Koss ran a promo for dealer's employees, if you sold so many, they'd let you buy one at $75...

This guy is sooo old-school audiophile. Whenever we get to talking about headphone gear, he's always saying
"Well, I wish it had a channel balance... alot of us old guys have damaged our ears and don't hear equally from both". He has a point, audiophile level products are more within reach these days, making it easier and easier to reach this hobby to younger groups. My guess would be at the time, a headphone system at this time was probably not targeting a teenage to 30 crowd.

If I had to guess, dealers ultimately would have requested that feature a selling point like big box manufacturers offer dts, bluetooth, etc...

...Or, then again, maybe not. Maybe his unit is so old, the pot just fused the two together ;)


@crazychile, you're probably absolutely right about the warehouse full of NOS, but I would like to stay positive and go with Koss talk that it might just be the energizers and the bags sitting there and waiting... as they "build each new ESP-950 to order" and that's what takes so mucg time...
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top