Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jun 9, 2022 at 5:40 AM Post #59,401 of 64,382
ESX already sounds good out of the box, smooth highs, upfront vocals, great soundstage, a little bit more bass. This should be the best imaging DD I've heard so far ( EDX Pro, CRA, EDA Balanced ). Very mature tuning :darthsmile:

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Are those real vents on side and top of the shell? The shell itself looked beautiful, 12mm DD means more air. Made me want to break my oath and buy another KZ, ugh
 
Jun 9, 2022 at 6:04 AM Post #59,402 of 64,382
Are those real vents on side and top of the shell? The shell itself looked beautiful, 12mm DD means more air. Made me want to break my oath and buy another KZ, ugh
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Image from Vortex and HKS1104
The shell is surprisingly better than the promo image suggest.
 
Jun 9, 2022 at 6:44 AM Post #59,403 of 64,382
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Image from Vortex and HKS1104
The shell is surprisingly better than the promo image suggest.

Can't tell if they are real vents unless someone who own ESX doing a test. but anyway, great shell, great design, great FR, great driver hopefully (12mm DD is same size with Sony Z1R's DD). I'm camping here waiting for early impressions, curious about the bass.
 
Jun 9, 2022 at 7:06 AM Post #59,405 of 64,382
Not a pro, but the vents looks real to me, the sounds is quite airy and transparent !

Can you do me a favor looking at tip of the nozzle? are they using paper / nylon damper on nozzle or graph are raw performances from driver? Thanks
 
Jun 9, 2022 at 7:47 AM Post #59,407 of 64,382
Looks like nylon to me !
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Thanks, that damper made bass bloated and smear because of bad airflow. Happens all the time. I can't blame chinese manufacturer though since this is the easiest and cheapest and reliable constant method to get smooth upper mids-trebles. But actually it has major drawback that blocks the airflow from dynamic driver. Easier to mod though rather than 5khz edge on CRA
 
Jun 9, 2022 at 10:51 AM Post #59,410 of 64,382
I'm looking at the EDA Balanced, I notice that the prices on Aliexpress varies quite a bit. KZs Official Store wants 26.03 usd with mic, vat included. Another store wants 18.75 usd with mic and vat included. It has 16.5K followers and 97.8% positive feedback. What do you guys think, can I trust that this is the original product?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...c16547856289621144eb454!12000028865658707!sea
 
Jun 9, 2022 at 6:24 PM Post #59,411 of 64,382
I'm looking at the EDA Balanced, I notice that the prices on Aliexpress varies quite a bit. KZs Official Store wants 26.03 usd with mic, vat included. Another store wants 18.75 usd with mic and vat included. It has 16.5K followers and 97.8% positive feedback. What do you guys think, can I trust that this is the original product?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004352369853.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.6555cc4e2gUrT4&algo_pvid=d75cc34b-8848-47af-8b80-4fd34ab0af56&algo_exp_id=d75cc34b-8848-47af-8b80-4fd34ab0af56-2&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id":"12000028865658707"}&pdp_npi=2@dis!USD!!17.7!!!!!@2100bb4c16547856289621144eb454!12000028865658707!sea
Standard EDA balanced price is at $19 in official KZ shop,
you should be able to find something a bit cheaper, and 18.75 is pretty reasonable price.
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Also

KZ ESX review
(1 Liquid Crystal Driver, $19)


 
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Jun 9, 2022 at 7:28 PM Post #59,412 of 64,382
I'm looking at the EDA Balanced, I notice that the prices on Aliexpress varies quite a bit. KZs Official Store wants 26.03 usd with mic, vat included. Another store wants 18.75 usd with mic and vat included. It has 16.5K followers and 97.8% positive feedback. What do you guys think, can I trust that this is the original product?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004352369853.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.6555cc4e2gUrT4&algo_pvid=d75cc34b-8848-47af-8b80-4fd34ab0af56&algo_exp_id=d75cc34b-8848-47af-8b80-4fd34ab0af56-2&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id":"12000028865658707"}&pdp_npi=2@dis!USD!!17.7!!!!!@2100bb4c16547856289621144eb454!12000028865658707!sea
As someone who isn't sure what sound characteristics I prefer yet I've been keeping an eye on this store selling the EDA 3 pack, waiting for someone to cry scam but even with the very low price, which includes free Aliexpress Standard Delivery if selected, they've had 165 orders and no bad reviews (for the EDA that is).
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004212386509.html

As I was looking into the store's other items for red flags I noticed this listing which has the EDA Balanced extremely cheap.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004379504421.html

I'm not recommending them as I may be missing something more experienced Ali buyers would notice, just giving you something to consider/confuse matters.:)
 
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Jun 10, 2022 at 12:14 AM Post #59,413 of 64,382
Standard EDA balanced price is at $19 in official KZ shop,
you should be able to find something a bit cheaper, and 18.75 is pretty reasonable price.
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Also

KZ ESX review
(1 Liquid Crystal Driver, $19)



With mic and vat to my country (Sweden) it's 26.03 usd from the KZ Official Shop. I'll check the reviews out. :)
 
Jun 10, 2022 at 1:11 AM Post #59,414 of 64,382
As someone who isn't sure what sound characteristics I prefer yet I've been keeping an eye on this store selling the EDA 3 pack, waiting for someone to cry scam but even with the very low price, which includes free Aliexpress Standard Delivery if selected, they've had 165 orders and no bad reviews (for the EDA that is).
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004212386509.html

As I was looking into the store's other items for red flags I noticed this listing which has the EDA Balanced extremely cheap.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004379504421.html

I'm not recommending them as I may be missing something more experienced Ali buyers would notice, just giving you something to consider/confuse matters.:)

Alitools is a useful plugin for chrome, that takes into account a few other things than just the feedback ratings. Also does price history which gives a better idea whether any claimed discount is real (or how low it is likely to go during sales). Ratings on AliExpress can be faked, be very wary of perfect scores, especially if there are no reviews, minimal or very similar comments. Exactly the same pattern in number of sales is also a giveaway. So if sales of many items are the same low number particularly with minimal reviews be suspicious. Length of time the trader has been operating is also valuable, scammers will accumulate bad reviews! Pay careful attention to top sales as well. Large numbers of sales for cheap and/or unrelated items, may then be accompanied by a few expensive items with few or no sales and no feedback. Also be wary of bait and switch. The clickbait price may just be for a cable or case etc., the IEM is another option for a much higher price. Lastly check the postage, cheap prices are usually loaded with higher shipping charges. Tracked shipping is safer but there are scams that just provide fake tracking numbers (usually for another order). So be very wary when you are told an order you still haven't received, is suddenly announced to have been delivered! I have never had any problems with AliExpress Standard Shipping so always choose that in preference. E-Packet has been okay as well, usually for smaller items. Always be suspicious and the regular warning "If it looks too good to be true, it's probably is".
 
Jun 10, 2022 at 1:59 AM Post #59,415 of 64,382
Standard EDA balanced price is at $19 in official KZ shop,
you should be able to find something a bit cheaper, and 18.75 is pretty reasonable price.
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Also

KZ ESX review
(1 Liquid Crystal Driver, $19)



I've checked the reviews now and also the graph I've included the link to (EDA Balanced vs EDA Hi-res vs KZ ESX vs Harman 2019). I think the EDA Balanced is more of what I'm looking for at the moment, the high-res might be even more what I'm looking for relative the balanced but that one seems to not be on sale as a single product so I think I might order the balanced. Thank you for the links.

https://ianfann.squig.link/?share=Harman_2019_Target,KZ_ESX,KZ_EDA_(SILVER),KZ_EDA_(GREEN)
 
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