Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Nov 25, 2020 at 5:10 AM Post #52,816 of 63,899
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are you able to hear a diffrecnce between a silver platen and pure silver cable
im going to be using them with asf and probabbly with other iems in the future

also is AK audiostore a safe place to buy?

Short answer: no.

There are better stores to do business with than AK.
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 8:49 AM Post #52,818 of 63,899
Friends, the CCA CS16 has just been released on Aliexpress on multiple stores at $90 USD before coupons.
Just search "CCA CS16", some stores do a click bait and lump it with cheaper cables and other KZ/CCA pokemons to generate a "cheaper" price when searching, but I think it is $89 - 90 USD on most stores.

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Achtung: the treble roll off (assuming the store graph is legit) is a bit worrisome. Well I'll wait for reviews, but any brave first adopters?
Hmm. That looks like 5 per side. 1 x 22955, 1x29689, 2x31736 and 1x30017. It's the CS10!
 
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Nov 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Post #52,819 of 63,899
Hmm. That looks like 5 per side. 1 x 22955, 1x29689, 2x31736 and 1x30017. It's the CS10!
They are tiny drivers in pairs, but there are 2×2 31736 and 2 × 30017.
About a buck a piece each judging by the difference in price with ASX.
So CS16 just have 2 × 30017 less compared to ASX, and the treble is as demonstratively rolled off in their fairy tale graphs...
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 11:34 AM Post #52,820 of 63,899
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are you able to hear a diffrecnce between a silver platen and pure silver cable
im going to be using them with asf and probabbly with other iems in the future

also is AK audiostore a safe place to buy?

I would save some money and go with the 4 core KBEAR Limpid and maybe 2 pin if you plan to buy other iems in the future
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 1:06 PM Post #52,821 of 63,899
I don't have the ASX, but that is a common issue in highly sensitive multi driver IEMs, they do pick up hiss. The ASX has a reported sensitivity of 106 dB/mW, that would be considered quite high sensitivity and I wouldn't be surprised that hiss occurs. It is not the impedance value but the high sensitivity that may cause hiss.

There's a few ways to remove the hiss:
1) use an in line volume controller
2) use an impedance adapter
3) use a high quality DAC/AMP as a source. I'm haven't used the SMSL AD18 FDA amp but it seems to be quite a basic amp and doesn't have the best reviews for sound quality and background noise on ASMR: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...w-and-measurements-of-smsl-ad18-dac-amp.7325/

There's some cheap and good DAC/AMP dongles u can try, that ain't expensive, like the Tempotec Sonata HD Pro, about $30 USD, very clean and neutralish sound, very transparent with no hiss even on very high sensitivity IEMs. It doesn't get warm too and has volume controller on it. Very good measurements and low output impedance. That's my go to when I go out, I just plug it into my smartphone when I want zero hiss on my multi driver high sensitivity type IEMs.
Thanks! Ordered! 😉
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:06 PM Post #52,822 of 63,899
They are tiny drivers in pairs, but there are 2×2 31736 and 2 × 30017.
About a buck a piece each judging by the difference in price with ASX.
So CS16 just have 2 × 30017 less compared to ASX, and the treble is as demonstratively rolled off in their fairy tale graphs...
One positive feature is that there are no BAs in the nozzle.
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:48 PM Post #52,823 of 63,899
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are you able to hear a diffrecnce between a silver platen and pure silver cable
im going to be using them with asf and probabbly with other iems in the future

also is AK audiostore a safe place to buy?
I would just order from the KBear store - I've had good luck with them. Those are good choices, I'm a big fan of their cables.
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 5:15 PM Post #52,825 of 63,899
Thanks im buying from kbear store then

Is the limpid cable better than the normal silver cable?
With KBEAR, AFAIK, the Limpid cables are their only pure silver cables, though there is now the Limpid (4 core) and Limpid Pro (8 core) cables.
 
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