Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Dec 15, 2018 at 12:04 AM Post #39,602 of 63,917
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Dec 15, 2018 at 1:29 AM Post #39,604 of 63,917
My Year-end Resolution:

I will not anymore buy any IEMs.

Pursuant thereto, I hereby resolve that henceforth I shall endeavor to use all means necessary to enable my husband to realize he could, and should, buy them for me.

As I'm not totally manipulative, I'll grant him the ceiling of US $30.

So:

That probably leaves out the ZS7, but the AS06 falls squarely on that parameter.

Clear's discovery, the CCA C10, which may yet turn out to be buried treasure, could be had for even less.

Cheers to the year ahead!
:blush: :beerchug: :ksc75smile:
Cheers! :smile:
...But, In my own personal experience, here's to going broke.:wine_glass::tired_face::thumbsup:
 
Dec 15, 2018 at 1:36 AM Post #39,605 of 63,917
oddly enough i like the looks of the BA10, its just the price and lack of impressions that are putting me off, not to mention some ppl said that the cheaper AS10 sounds better than it (or warmer sounding)

to BA10 owners, how do you describe the sound like against the ZSN, ZS6 and the V80 ? it can just be one of them, since im curious

BA10 vs ZS6

Completely different presentations:
BA10 - instruments positioned in a linear fashion from left to right with good width (soundstage).
ZS6 - the midrange is not forward but the instruments are set in a semi-cercle around the vocalist/featured instrument.

BA10 - richer/more dense midrange with less micro-detail in the upper-treble and mid-treble.
ZS6 - more micro-detail in the lower-treble, more finesse on instrument positioning which facilitates and accentuates layering

The bass (mid-bass & sub-bass) are very different; can't pick which one is better though. BA10's is full-bodied and slightly dry but clean, ZS6's is quick and slightly wet with great impact.

Again, very different but great job on both.

I do wonder on the ZS7 though, seems its not up on the KZ official channels (store and weibo)

probably another ED16 situation brewing? They did just release the AS06 (just like back then when they released the ZSR)

This is getting weird.

Typical for KZ; sellers often have new models before the KZ Official Store lists them. Sometimes there'll even be exclusive carriers for a given period of time (ES3 & GearBest last year).

Any upgrade to the KZ HDS3?, looking for a non over ear design.

According to these FR graphs the closest, for a KZ, seems to be the AS10 but you'll have to check with someone who owns both. I do not.

AntDroid AS10 FR graph:
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HeadFlux HDS3 FR graph:
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Completely different rigs/set-ups so these graphs aren't gospel, just noteworthy.

To my ears the HDS3 has a somewhat holographic presentation. I've not heard anyone describe the AS10 that way so ask around first. The BA10 is open and airy with more linear positioning. The ZS6 soundstage is more akin to the HDS3.

Hard to go back to its lower resolution but the HDS3 is an old skool favorite of mine. I have three sets and won't be parting with any of them. Well, perhaps one set if someone had an irresistible out-of-production and rare in-ear to swap (Klipsch S4 Reference, original Tennmak Piano, Tennmak C6 Turbo, original SoundMAGIC PL30 , etc.).

At any rate, hope this was helpful.
 
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Dec 15, 2018 at 2:55 AM Post #39,607 of 63,917
For the KZ ZS10 (left PIC) and the CCA C10 (right PIC), the cross-over board (frequency dividing board) and the placement of BA and driver is going to be the "key" for the "better sound signature"! :point_left:

I'm sure, even the FR Frequency Graph should be different to each other and the drivers might be different. ...Can't wait for my Cyan C10 to get here!
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-Clear
 
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Dec 15, 2018 at 3:37 AM Post #39,608 of 63,917
Audionab sure doesn't think so. :wink:

You say the ZS4 cable is the best one that KZ has made but I've heard the same thing about the purple ZSN copper cable.
The ZSN cable is definitely a step up from previous versions because KZ removed the pesky memory wire. But the Y-split is still in a stupid position halfway down the cable and it easily becomes a tangled mess.
 
Dec 15, 2018 at 5:33 AM Post #39,611 of 63,917
Received the ZSN a dew days ago, didn't have time for extended listening but KZ nailed it. These things are, like the ZST, very comfy to my ears. The sound these produce for the price is insane. I dig the design so much; I recall a week or so before 11/11, when the ZSN hype train hadn't really started rolling yet, I considered ordering this solely for the design. Value-wise if you look at the whole package I'd imagine nothing really comes close.

Comparing the ZSN to my BQ3 they sound quite similar. The ZSN to my ears, has ever so slightly more detail retrieval but also sounds a bit harsher as a result. Especially noticable is that mids are more forward, cymbals and claps more 'in your face'. The BQ3 sounds a bit more chilled out in this regard, sound a bit more refined to me. To my ears, the BQ3 show more coherency over the whole frequency spectrum, especially the lower to mid side. However.. the BQ3 costs at least twice as much.

If I had to choose only one and toss the other, I'd probably go with the BQ3. However, I would also wholeheartedly recommend the ZSN, especially if you're on a budget. I feel that audio gear has come to a point where diminishing returns on investment are becoming increasingly noticable. I know I'm gonna stop purchasing IEMs for a while and might start saving up for a nice dap or dac/amp combi I can hook up to my desktop and phone. That should be a bigger step up in SQ then most decently affordable iems/headphones could be.

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Dec 15, 2018 at 7:36 AM Post #39,613 of 63,917
Is it only me or what? Received the ZSN and it sounds trash compared to my ZS5v1. Everything else is amazing though from the looks to the fit and comfort.

The difference is like going from 320kbps to 128kbps. EXACLTY like this.

And yeah my ES4 and ED16 sounds better too.

Should I get a replacement?
 
Dec 15, 2018 at 7:54 AM Post #39,614 of 63,917
Maybe 1/2h burn in...
 

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