[To.M]

In the sz3..yur attention is drawn to the mids...
And if u put on the zst..u realised the lack of sparkle on sz3..
N if u switch back to sz3 again..u will say ..
Ahhhh nice mids

Careful, you're gonna fall into a neverending loop!

ricemanhk Yeah, there is a solid amount of bass in ZST, it is just a matter of finding a proper seal.

 

[CoiL]

 
1. difference between ATE and ATR?

Different drivers. I have taken apart both of them. Soundwise ATR is slightly more balanced and has more "in your face" sound presentation than ATE. 
ATE has noticeably larger soundstage and more "out of the headstage" presentation.

 

[DikZak]

Yay, they just delivered my ATR.
First impression: Not the wow-feeling I once had when I got my Klipsch Image S4. Bass & Vocals are very clear, maybe a bit more bass than I expected but they sound fine otherwise. Maybe because it goes pretty deep, deeper than most earphones I heard.

The highs not as clear as I expected. Sound a bit muddy(cymbals, that is), if that is the right word. And the whole sounds a bit "lower" - Also don't know the word for that, I am not used to these head-fi terms yet. I hear plenty of detail throughout though. Very lifelike. (if one can put my words to terms common used here, I would be happy so I actually understand more what you guys are saying)
 
And man, these things are huge but they fit fine otherwise. These little weights are great when wearing them over the ear.

Still waiting for my Vivo EX800 to compare these two.
Bit hesitant to buy ZST. What's the ZST compared to the ATR like?

 

[Griffith]

  Yay, they just delivered my ATR.
First impression: Not the wow-feeling I once had when I got my Klipsch Image S4. Bass & Vocals are very clear, maybe a bit more bass than I expected but they sound fine otherwise. Maybe because it goes pretty deep, deeper than most earphones I heard.

The highs not as clear as I expected. Sound a bit muddy(cymbals, that is), if that is the right word. And the whole sounds a bit "lower" - Also don't know the word for that, I am not used to these head-fi terms yet. I hear plenty of detail throughout though. Very lifelike. (if one can put my words to terms common used here, I would be happy so I actually understand more what you guys are saying)
 
And man, these things are huge but they fit fine otherwise. These little weights are great when wearing them over the ear.

Still waiting for my Vivo EX800 to compare these two.
Bit hesitant to buy ZST. What's the ZST compared to the ATR like?

 
By "lower" I think you mean recessed. There's a blog I follow that has a nice article on how to describe sound that you might find useful: https://www.audiophileon.com/news/how-to-describe-sound-an-audiophile-terminology-guide

 

[DikZak]

By "lower" I think you mean recessed. There's a blog I follow that has a nice article on how to describe sound that you might find useful: https://www.audiophileon.com/news/how-to-describe-sound-an-audiophile-terminology-guide

Thanks, nice article

I meant dark. I wasn't describing solely the highs but the whole sound it produces

 

[Griffith]

Thanks, nice article

I meant dark. I wasn't describing solely the highs but the whole sound it produces

 
I know, in that case you should say "the highs sound recessed". That way you're only characterizing those frequencies of sounds (like the cymbals and such).

 

[Mus1c]

Anyone know how to make kz atr more bassy?

 

[Mus1c]

Can anybody clarify what fun sound signature sound like? I mean the Kz zs3.

 

[DikZak]

Ah, I see what you are getting at. Thanks once again.

Went to side-by-side listening with my Image S4. While I like these, because they sound a bit more airy. However after comparing they have extreme sibilance. But I like the balance better, bit less bass and more mids & highs and crispier. However I hate the sibilance now.
My journey continues, really interested if vivo xe800 are good for my taste. Have to wait...

That said, for 4$ the ATR is good, and about in the same range as my sennheiser cx250 which costed me $25 back then. My S4 were $55 and is still bit crispier.

 

[Lorspeaker]

4$ for ATR is good....11$ for the zst is GREAT

 

[ricemanhk]

OK, here are my thoughts on the ZST and ZS3.  In short, the 2 are both really good but have quite different sound signatures, so pick the one based on your music/sound preferences.  My own preference is the ZST as I prefer more detail and resolution and I'm NOT all about that bass.
 
ZST 
Very easy to get a good seal every time, and the bass is there though not overwhelming.  Mids and highs are very clear, lots of detail and resolution.  Medium sound stage, I've had a wider sound stage with my xiaomi pistons gen 5 (the new 2DD + BA hybrid) but that one also has a more airy feel, perhaps due to the front and back ports.  
 
Silver vs Stock cable: as I wrote previously, there's a slight impedance difference between the 2 wires (1.2ohms vs 1.5-1.6). Not enough to matter in actual listening though, I have a feeling the silver wire makes the ZSTs a TOUCH brighter but that may be all in my head, as the wire swapping take a fair bit of time.
 
ZS3
ZS3 has oh so much more bass, almost like a wall of bass.  Great for EDM and bass heavy music, but not as good for jazz/classical as the highs are a bit recessed and muddled.  Mids I would say is a tie, ZS3 has warmth in the vocals, while ZST has more resolution.  I also prefer the wires on the ZST that don't have the memory wire, which actually makes them more comfy and easier to store.  (Did someone here say they took out the memory wire?  Any instructions on how?)
 
Both are super comfy to wear, but I find I have to adjust my ZS3s more frequently than the ZSTs when I'm walking around.  The litmus test is when I put in the earbuds and get a good seal, then make a big smile which reduces the seal coz my ears move, then go back to normal.  ZSTs tend to go back to a good seal, while the ZS3s sometimes will stay loose and I need to adjust.
 
For extended/serious listening I used to use my UE TF 10s.  They still sound better than the ZSTs (so much more resolution and richness) but unfortunately the comfort level is lacking...my ears tend to ache after an hour or so especially with the reverse mod, but then i also don't want to look like a teletubby.  Anyway I think the ZSTs will be my daily drivers from now...
 
Bottom line, for the price both earbuds are a no brainer, pick the one based on your preferred music type and sound profile.  If only their mic had volume controls as well then that would be perfect...at least for Android phones to keep the costs low.  I also can't wait for the ZSRs to come out, if they can tune it well it should be really awesome!

 

[chickenmoon]

Anyone know how to make kz atr more bassy?

Try put some foam in the tips bores, that should filter out some of the highs and mids and it'll therefore become bassier. I do that with the monoprice 88320 and it works very well for taming its too much brightness. Whether ATR will still sound good doing that I am not sure but I think that's all you can try to do.

 

[chickenmoon]

Can anybody clarify what fun sound signature sound like? I mean the Kz zs3.

ZS3 has bass and sub-bass boost, I think that means fun.

 

[Ruben123]

Ah, I see what you are getting at. Thanks once again.

Went to side-by-side listening with my Image S4. While I like these, because they sound a bit more airy. However after comparing they have extreme sibilance. But I like the balance better, bit less bass and more mids & highs and crispier. However I hate the sibilance now.
My journey continues, really interested if vivo xe800 are good for my taste. Have to wait...

That said, for 4$ the ATR is good, and about in the same range as my sennheiser cx250 which costed me $25 back then. My S4 were $55 and is still bit crispier.

While the Atr is warm balanced - the vivo is more bright balanced, if you understand what I mean. It's really great

 

[n1ls]

I have a pair of ZS1 and ATE S, and thought ZS3 would make a great addition to my collection. I ordered these on Gearbest but they haven't shipped it since a month, and the first time I raised a ticket they told me it's on back order. I raised another ticket 2 days ago, and they told me that the product is in stock and will be shipped immediately, but the order status is still in processing. Is this something to expect from GB?  Has anyone who ordered this November from GB received their ZS3's?