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May 4, 2015 at 3:52 PM Post #3,421 of 64,378
coil said:
  @ilikeiem ,if You do research about that tidal test then You know why it is so easy :wink: It`s not 100% proven yet but some tests and secrecy show that this test is altered with codec setting or something like that. For me that test shows absolutely nothing and is more like advertisement for Tidal. It`s too damn easy, even with cheaper low-fi gear.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/743658/tidal-lossless-listening-test-whats-going-on-here/15#post_11077298
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Yeah I know that the test is d@mn easy. I also figure out that their lossless music is only 44.1khz/16bits sound. 
 
May 4, 2015 at 4:05 PM Post #3,422 of 64,378
16/44 lossless is enough also, imho. And I recommend Your to read about bit depth also, there are great knowledge in here, head-fi threads about it. 
Basically 24-bit is only useful in studio mastering and mixing. Unless You have some special gear that can really benefit somehow from 24-bit (no idea how though) then there is no difference between 16-bit or 24-bit. kHz is another story. But I`m not here to rail this thread towards offtopic and flaming, this is just my subjective experience and knowledge about it. Anyway, go and do some research how digital audio works :wink:
 
BTW, I just ordered KZ ATE from here: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-new-arrival-KZ-ATE-sports-earphone-in-ear-bass-HiFi-portable/32334277693.html
 
I really hope this time they will arrive... or I`m probably through with KZ, unfortunately.
I ordered light grey version without mic (I just don`t use mic).
 
By pictures they seem to be easy to open and if they sound good, then I`m going to make wooden covers with different wood for L/R 
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May 4, 2015 at 4:39 PM Post #3,424 of 64,378
coil said:
  16/44 lossless is enough also, imho. And I recommend Your to read about bit depth also, there are great knowledge in here, head-fi threads about it. 
Basically 24-bit is only useful in studio mastering and mixing. Unless You have some special gear that can really benefit somehow from 24-bit (no idea how though) then there is no difference between 16-bit or 24-bit. kHz is another story. But I`m not here to rail this thread towards offtopic and flaming, this is just my subjective experience and knowledge about it. Anyway, go and do some research how digital audio works :wink:
 
BTW, I just ordered KZ ATE from here: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-new-arrival-KZ-ATE-sports-earphone-in-ear-bass-HiFi-portable/32334277693.html
 
I really hope this time they will arrive... or I`m probably through with KZ, unfortunately.
I ordered light grey version without mic (I just don`t use mic).
 
By pictures they seem to be easy to open and if they sound good, then I`m going to make wooden covers with different wood for L/R 
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I'm an experience Objective-C++ developer and I can do low level audio programming.  So I know so many things about Digital Audio. 
 
BTW, KZ ATE will be shipped on May 7.  I guess you have to wait a couple of days, after that you can track the status of your parcel. 
 

 
May 4, 2015 at 4:59 PM Post #3,426 of 64,378
And what was the source? If it was some typical smartphone, then I`m not surprised by the result :wink:
 
May 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM Post #3,427 of 64,378
vovka said:
  i've done this test with my KZ ES and guessed 0 out of 5
i think my understanding of what "high fidelity" is, is absolutely wrong :)
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lol with my TTPOD T1E I am unable to witness any difference between the audios. Didn't even complete the test as A and B sounded exactly the same to me. 
My source is okay-ish enough.
 
May 4, 2015 at 5:23 PM Post #3,429 of 64,378
vovka said:
 
coil said:
  And what was the source? If it was some typical smartphone, then I`m not surprised by the result :wink:
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the source is my pc with HD audio
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And I think there`s Your so-to-say problem. I came from that "ground" also. Then I had ESI Juli@ soundcard which jumped levels above HD Audio. Now I`m settled with external DAC and DAP which sound even better (not so cold/dry and analytical as Juli@ was). ESI Jui@ was very good though, especially for recording but for playback it lacked littlebit musicality imho. Even my cheapo modified ELE EL-D02 DAC/Amp sounds much better than onboard HD Audio. If Your`e not using onboard digital SPDIF output to some amp/dac, then it is quite... sorry but bad quality :wink:
 
And now back to KZ. Anyone else ordered ATE already?
 
May 4, 2015 at 5:29 PM Post #3,431 of 64,378
...or better source gear :wink: 
 
May 5, 2015 at 8:05 AM Post #3,432 of 64,378
@ ED9 users, which nozzle you guys prefer? The one already on it or the alternative?
Asking cause i ordered this one http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Arrival-Original-KZ-ED9-3-5mm-in-ear-headset-Heavy-Bass-HIFI-DJ-Stereo/32335920421.html
So in case they send me one without the extra nozzle i'll know what i'll miss, though i think the chance of the nozzles to be missing is small still i am curious.
 
May 5, 2015 at 8:12 AM Post #3,434 of 64,378
shadowsora said:
@ ED9 users, which nozzle you guys prefer? The one already on it or the alternative?
Asking cause i ordered this one http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Arrival-Original-KZ-ED9-3-5mm-in-ear-headset-Heavy-Bass-HIFI-DJ-Stereo/32335920421.html
So in case they send me one without the extra nozzle i'll know what i'll miss, though i think the chance of the nozzles to be missing is small still i am curious.
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I prefer the bronze filter over the gold. There's still plenty of bass and it's more neutral and Mids seem more forward.
 
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