[Tzennn]

What would you recommend for pop, Rnb, & alternative tracks, cra or zex pro? Budget limited atm so can only afford one. Tia

Blon/tanya better than kz for vocal

 

[emer08]

Blon/tanya better than kz for vocal

Already have the tanya, didn't like the fit of the blons. Was planning to get either the cra or the zex pro/crn.

 

[unifutomaki]

What would you recommend for pop, Rnb, & alternative tracks, cra or zex pro? Budget limited atm so can only afford one. Tia

CRA.

 

[Coyro]

Good to know I’m not imagining and conjuring up my hype-bubble bursting criticisms

The same story all over again.
Some Chinese brand has delivered a new budget IEM that sounds not too bad overall and has some zest in it.
People have tried it with the prejudice "oh, just another $20 chi-fi, it could be trash, no big loss" but suddenly it has exceeded the expectations. And another train starts rolling with the usual exaggeration: giant-killers/endgame/whatever.
Well, it's quite obvious that the manufacturer should not sell the true $2000 sound for $20, It'll be just stupid.

I've bought my set way before the hype because, well, it was a sale, I had the coupons, so I have picked a bag of cheapos (TA1, ZEX pro, Tanya, Summer, FC3, and so on) just to have fun with them, get scolded by my wife and then search to whom I could gift it a bit later.

We had a LOT of QC issues and disparity with the cheap OMG-giant-killers in the past, we had an abysmal fit of the BL-03, shrill piezo of NX7, you name it.
Moreover, it's not a one-size-fits-all gear, our ears are different, our tastes are different, our selection of songs and other gear differ, so I bet every single set could've found its lucky listener. Regardless of the price.

Sure, the best of the best hardly will be waiting for you in the bargain bin, but with the sum of about $10-$20, it feels like a shame not to try.

 

[unifutomaki]

Just in case this IEM couldn’t get any worse, the finish on my ZEX has started to develop pockmarks. Guess these are unsaleable now :/

 

[IEMbiker]

Just in case this IEM couldn’t get any worse, the finish on my ZEX has started to develop pockmarks. Guess these are unsaleable now :/

Mod it then, put in TWFK or 23x48 BA.

 

[dimazbaik]

What would you recommend for pop, Rnb, & alternative tracks, cra or zex pro? Budget limited atm so can only afford one. Tia

Zst pro

 

[dimazbaik]

Mod it then, put in TWFK or 23x48 BA.

How to? Any tutorial?

 

[lushmelody]

The same story all over again.
Some Chinese brand has delivered a new budget IEM that sounds not too bad overall and has some zest in it.
People have tried it with the prejudice "oh, just another $20 chi-fi, it could be trash, no big loss" but suddenly it has exceeded the expectations. And another train starts rolling with the usual exaggeration: giant-killers/endgame/whatever.
Well, it's quite obvious that the manufacturer should not sell the true $2000 sound for $20, It'll be just stupid.

I've bought my set way before the hype because, well, it was a sale, I had the coupons, so I have picked a bag of cheapos (TA1, ZEX pro, Tanya, Summer, FC3, and so on) just to have fun with them, get scolded by my wife and then search to whom I could gift it a bit later.

We had a LOT of QC issues and disparity with the cheap OMG-giant-killers in the past, we had an abysmal fit of the BL-03, shrill piezo of NX7, you name it.
Moreover, it's not a one-size-fits-all gear, our ears are different, our tastes are different, our selection of songs and other gear differ, so I bet every single set could've found its lucky listener. Regardless of the price.

Sure, the best of the best hardly will be waiting for you in the bargain bin, but with the sum of about $10-$20, it feels like a shame not to try.

Also EQ/PEQ is generally so undermined here. Tuning is not a permanent aspect of any IEM. Some issues can be fixed.

 

[unifutomaki]

Also EQ/PEQ is generally so undermined here. Tuning is not a permanent aspect of any IEM. Some issues can be fixed.

Well, I can’t really use EQ/PEQ and I don’t necessarily want to change my transport just so I can have that. Moreover, if you use a pair of IEMs across multiple sources and swap across multiple pairs of IEMs, it’s a pain to have to remember to swap EQ presets every time. IEMs can and should be made to sound as good as they can be out of the box, the responsibility shouldn’t be put on the end user to fix it.

 

[IEMbiker]

How to? Any tutorial?

I can do it on the NRA. Will post it in Home Made IEM after done document it.

 

[lushmelody]

Well, I can’t really use EQ/PEQ and I don’t necessarily want to change my transport just so I can have that. Moreover, if you use a pair of IEMs across multiple sources and swap across multiple pairs of IEMs, it’s a pain to have to remember to swap EQ presets every time. IEMs can and should be made to sound as good as they can be out of the box, the responsibility shouldn’t be put on the end user to fix it.

I understand your points, but I've never found a 100% perfect IEM (do you?). I always personalize/callibrate my setup - as a hobbyist - and that is a reason I would only consider an iPhone if i also buy a dedicated android DAP for music. Poweramp and Peace (SoundMagic was my Mac software, I think) are very easy to save and change presets, I consider them all easy software setup and way less work to do than carry an external DAC/Amp. PEQ made me revisit and reconsider a lot of IEMs (and HPs)... also save money.

 

[dimazbaik]

I understand your points, but I've never found a 100% perfect IEM (do you?). I always personalize/callibrate my setup - as a hobbyist - and that is a reason I would only consider an iPhone if i also buy a dedicated android DAP for music. Poweramp and Peace (SoundMagic was my Mac software, I think) are very easy to save and change presets, I consider them all easy software setup and way less work to do than carry an external DAC/Amp. PEQ made me revisit and reconsider a lot of IEMs (and HPs)... also save money.

With peq even mpow could be turned into harman neutral

 

[Coyro]

Moreover, if you use a pair of IEMs across multiple sources and swap across multiple pairs of IEMs, it’s a pain to have to remember to swap EQ presets every time.

Hell yeah.
From time to time I forget that I could've had the EQ on one setup, plug some pair into the other, and get bewildered about what the hell is going on.

 

[voicemaster]

Hell yeah.
From time to time I forget that I could've had the EQ on one setup, plug some pair into the other, and get bewildered about what the hell is going on.

Thats why I hate EQing on an IEM. I am a soundguy and I use EQ on professional grade mixer for FOH mix, but even that we mostly do not to change the tuning but to combat feedback or ringing in a room.