Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Dec 16, 2019 at 2:24 AM Post #49,126 of 63,919
I have the CCA C12 which could benefit from the same thing. Easy to do?
It's not hard to remove these BAs, I've only need some patience....
- BA isn't glued well, I've only used toothpick to unstick it.
- Now how to unplug wires .... combination of needle and twisting/pushing/pulling with that BA works well for me. Wires will unconnect after a while and stay there unpluged.
 
Dec 16, 2019 at 9:55 AM Post #49,127 of 63,919
Heya, yesterday I got to try the CCA C12 (Which should be the same pretty much than the ZSX, right?) against my TRN V90 and well...I think I kinda like them a bit more. They seemed a bit bassier, with less recessed mids. At this point I'm gonna end up buying them too. OH WELL
The C12 and the ZSX actually have different tunings, unlike the A10/TP10/KB10 business.
 
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Dec 16, 2019 at 10:48 AM Post #49,128 of 63,919
The C12 and the ZSX actually have different tunings, unlike the AS16/C16 and A10/TP10/KB10 business.
Could you please elaborate.
While it is agreed that A10/TP10/KB10 (and the latter two are not KZ/CCA) are agreed to be essentially identical, C16 and AS16 have different drivers to start with, so I would expect the difference be more than for ZSX/C12 (from what I read).
I only have C12 and C16 and enjoy them both (did not want to afford ZSX and AS16, but now more and more tempted to try the latter).
 
Dec 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM Post #49,129 of 63,919
I dunno audiophiles annoy the hell out of me. Never mind how subjective the whole thing is there are people out there who genuinely look down on people who use EQ, listen to Rap, use iPods, ect. I call these people religious audiophiles. They make up dogma and push their made up rules on everyone else. Stuck up, snobby, corksniffing d-bags the whole lot of them. May they spend eternity strapped to some Beats headphones listening to mumble rap at 128kbs MP3.

Heck, I just call them Putz's (However I've always loved the word Corksniffer:grin:). For anyone to think they are better than anyone simply because of what they own, think of what they own as being much better missed the boat a long time ago and they are the ones who never reach anywhere but right back to that stupid logic in the first place:rolling_eyes: To be awesome is to never say or act as if you are:smirk: Enough about lost souls let's see how I've culled my KZ collection over the years of either gifting or just giving away some. These are my ala Lynard Skynard "Street Survivors" (why yes that is a few surviving Old Skoolers in the upper left case):stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: Let's raise a glass and toast KZ for allowing every man (OK you ladies too) the opportunity to have killer sound for a fraction of the name brands:beerchug:

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Dec 16, 2019 at 2:54 PM Post #49,131 of 63,919
I gave my ZS10 Pro away @teus but I've regretted that move and have a replacement coming however I do wish KZ had made it with the satin finish face plate ala ZSX:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

So the only way I could justify this killer $44 cable on my ZS4's was to buy a second pair to have a red right and black left, next I'll probably be getting a multi belted jacket to wear in the padded room:smirk:

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Dec 16, 2019 at 3:09 PM Post #49,132 of 63,919
Could you please elaborate.
While it is agreed that A10/TP10/KB10 (and the latter two are not KZ/CCA) are agreed to be essentially identical, C16 and AS16 have different drivers to start with, so I would expect the difference be more than for ZSX/C12 (from what I read).
I only have C12 and C16 and enjoy them both (did not want to afford ZSX and AS16, but now more and more tempted to try the latter).
You're right, I thought the AS16 and the C16 also had the same tuning.
 
Dec 16, 2019 at 4:13 PM Post #49,133 of 63,919
I gave my ZS10 Pro away @teus but I've regretted that move and have a replacement coming however I do wish KZ had made it with the satin finish face plate ala ZSX:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
yeah, I'm not a fan either of the glossy chrome finish. the purple plastic on mine looks amazing, however.
I'm using them with a FiiO BTR1K. nice pairing, outstanding value. I'm not compelled to upgrade either of them. we'll see in a few years, when technology has advanced again, and how they quickly they wear.
 
Dec 17, 2019 at 3:57 AM Post #49,134 of 63,919
Okay, so I had time to listen to my ZSX last night and finally swapped the original cables for the silver KZ cables that I bought as extras, and never in my wildest dreams did I think the slight harshness would disappear, overall clarity and soundstage would expand, and details were going to sound so precise! ...I didn't realize how much I was missing!!! :point_left::astonished:
 
Dec 17, 2019 at 5:11 AM Post #49,135 of 63,919
Okay, so I had time to listen to my ZSX last night and finally swapped the original cables for the silver KZ cables that I bought as extras, and never in my wildest dreams did I think the slight harshness would disappear, overall clarity and soundstage would expand, and details were going to sound so precise! ...I didn't realize how much I was missing!!! :point_left::astonished:

From 1 to placebo how would your rate the upgrade
 
Dec 17, 2019 at 7:35 AM Post #49,136 of 63,919
Dec 17, 2019 at 9:52 AM Post #49,137 of 63,919
From 1 to placebo how would your rate the upgrade

Seriously, 25 post and this is the way you want to start your journey here:rolling_eyes: Not sure but that "w" and "s" may be reversed:smirk: Curious if you rate your post from 1 to placebo where it falls? Welcome aboard and hold on tight:wink:

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Dec 17, 2019 at 11:28 AM Post #49,138 of 63,919
Literally the only cable difference you could ever get with these things is if you go to balanced, and even that's not guaranteed. I'm seriously laughing at people dropping coin on various cables like it's gonna change the sound to any appreciable degree. The tips will have a gigantic difference by comparison. And yes, I did buy a balanced cable, but mostly because I was upgrading anyway since I hate the stock cable and felt like giving it a shot since I have an ES100.

But I gotta give this site credit, I assumed the snake oil purchases were the purview of the Summit-Fi shoppers, but here we are.
 
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Dec 17, 2019 at 12:56 PM Post #49,139 of 63,919
I have recently bought a kz aptx type c cable for my zs10 Pro and have cut out the ear guides and wire as it is irritating to me. I did this with my previous cable on the zs 10 normal. But I find they have ab approx 3db hiss on the zs10 Pro, and it irritates me.

Long story short, the zs10 Pro is a little too sensitive for the cable so I slapped it on my zsn, and it's fine. Also the other one is fine on the old zs10.
 
Dec 17, 2019 at 1:25 PM Post #49,140 of 63,919
Literally the only cable difference you could ever get with these things is if you go to balanced, and even that's not guaranteed. I'm seriously laughing at people dropping coin on various cables like it's gonna change the sound to any appreciable degree. The tips will have a gigantic difference by comparison. And yes, I did buy a balanced cable, but mostly because I was upgrading anyway since I hate the stock cable and felt like giving it a shot since I have an ES100.

But I gotta give this site credit, I assumed the snake oil purchases were the purview of the Summit-Fi shoppers, but here we are.

Laugh all you want, my thoughts are these good looking iem's deserve a sweet cable regardless of any sonic difference at all. Snake Oil, accessorizing it's all good for me and if I can afford it you just laugh at me all you want, I've never been one to taught how much more awesome a cable sounds from an original but I've for sure said what a POS one might have been on build quality. I have a balanced ES100 with balanced cables all over the place and I'm not so sure even balanced sounds all that much better but it is a more efficient signal path. I see you bought a balanced cable for use with your ES100 so what's your thoughts on balanced vs. single ended? Here's laughing back at ya SGD:laughing: Come to think of it I applaud you for being so smart with your money:beerchug: Just for you here's another shot of my wasted $44:grin: Respectfully yours Pod:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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