[Ruebezahl]

Well I ordered the KZ Ed16 and a silver TRN V10 cable before it vanishes. Does anyone have confirmation that it really has been discontinued?

I don't know, but that wouldn't be the worst solution, then they should redesign the sound and get rid of these nasty peaks in highs and rerelease it as ED16 Pro, or ED16 HD... That would make me really happy

 

[jeromeaparis]

I need help over here, My KZ silver cable has arrived to me today and somehow the sound is muffled than the original cable idk why. Any idea why that happened ? especially vocals are so different than the original kz cable(KZ ZS6) by the way this is one is second generation silver cable the red blue thing.

Please show us the link so that we can see wich cable "the red blue thing" you have.

 

[mbwilson111]

Everything seems to be on sale on Aliexpress right now... what are some good ear tips for ED16/ES4? Thanks.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot...ps-Earbuds-Headphones-Spiral/32641318962.html

While the stock Starlines work really well for me on many iems, I got a better fit with the Spinfit CP100 on my KZED16...and a few other over ear type iems.

 

[BadReligionPunk]

I am thinking of ordering the KZ ES4's. I have enjoyed my ED9's and ZS5's, but I like strong bass, and the ES4's apparently are good for that. If you have a pair of ES4's, would you agree?

I can get the ES4's for $19, same day free delivery:
https://www.amazon.com/Earphones-**...id=1535384214&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=es4&psc=1

I never had an interest in es4, but was mistakingly sent one by mistake when ordering zsr. I find it the best sounding of all the kz earphones I have tried. Unfortunately they are really uncomfortable for me and cause me a lot of pain. Will be trying a couple different tips and trying some different cables.

Soundwise they have a ton of low-end energy that's really intoxicating. Mids are clear and natural. I personally don't find them recessed enough to complain about. Been listening to bluegrass and old country and western for the greater part of the day. Everything sounds great. Stage and imaging sound great for a $15 phone.

Listening to reggae and hip-hop with these things is fun. Enough sub and mb slam and punch to satisfy bassheads. Extreme bassheads maybe not so much, but they can handle quite a bit of eq, so that may satisfy extreme bassist if needed. I'm satisfied.

 

[jeromeaparis]

Everything seems to be on sale on Aliexpress right now... what are some good ear tips for ED16/ES4? Thanks.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot...ps-Earbuds-Headphones-Spiral/32641318962.html

These spiral with very large bore are the one I do use with my ES4, they are the best I found (and I did try a lot)
At the opposite, on ED16, they do not sound good at all
On ED16 the best I found (for the sound) are triple flange with 4mm bore

 

[Tunaa]

Please show us the link so that we can see wich cable "the red blue thing" you have.

I have solved the issue by flipping them(reversing) it seemed there was a polarity issues.

 

[Tunaa]

Please show us the link so that we can see wich cable "the red blue thing" you have.

https://penonaudio.com/kz-iem-upgrade-cable.html T

Please show us the link so that we can see wich cable "the red blue thing" you have.

https://penonaudio.com/kz-iem-upgrade-cable.html Here you go.

 

[LaughMoreDaily]

At the opposite, on ED16, they do not sound good at all
On ED16 the best I found (for the sound) are triple flange with 4mm bore

Do you have a link to which ones you bought?

 

[fedcas]

I can tell you that the TRN BT3 is light-years ahead of the crappy KZ bluetooth headsets. I tried all models of the KZ bluetooth and they have a terrible connection and crap battery life. The BT3 is by far the best Bluetooth experience available for the KZ. I have the aptx version and basic. Not much of a difference between the two. Battery lasts all day. There is very little audio delay. Well worth the purchase.

Hi,
I've looked in the thread but I couldn't find the answer: what about the new KZ bluetooth cable?

I've read they are much better than the old, asymmetric version. But how they compare to the TRN? Unless the difference is very noticeable, I would like to go with the KZ because of the very attractive 10.99 USD price https://www.gearbest.com/headphone-accessories/pp_009191931713.html?wid=1433363

P.S.
I've read KZ bluetooth adapter exist in 3 revisions... BT 4.1, 4.2 and 5... is that true? on gearbest I read 4.1 but I don't know if that's reliable.

Another question:
I think for just 8 USD I'll also buy the usb type C cable with built in DAC... does it sound better than the BT adapter? Or maybe there are better USB options remaining in the 10-15 usd range?

 

[Slater]

Hi,
I've looked in the thread but I couldn't find the answer: what about the new KZ bluetooth cable?

I've read they are much better than the old, asymmetric version. But how they compare to the TRN? Unless the difference is very noticeable, I would like to go with the KZ because of the very attractive 10.99 USD price https://www.gearbest.com/headphone-accessories/pp_009191931713.html?wid=1433363

P.S.
I've read KZ bluetooth adapter exist in 3 revisions... BT 4.1, 4.2 and 5... is that true? on gearbest I read 4.1 but I don't know if that's reliable.

Another question:
I think for just 8 USD I'll also buy the usb type C cable with built in DAC... does it sound better than the BT adapter? Or maybe there are better USB options remaining in the 10-15 usd range?

The new KZ BT cable is junk, as it is full of problems. Get the TRN BT cable.

However, the KZ USB-C cable is A+.

And the USB-C cable should sound better than the BT because it is direct wired.

 

[trumpethead]

Loving my AS10 after pairing with New Bee Foams large..Tamed the highs a bit, separation is great with mucho detail..Enough bass very controlled but enough...Also sounded good with Large Starlines...Fit is very important with these. Give them power they can take it...Happy with the purchase...

 

[nxnje]

Was confused with ed16 and zsa and then i bought a pair of TRN v80.
They have been shipped today, actually paid like 24€ for them, hope it's a good price.

 

[nxnje]

Go for @Slater number 3 choice; foam tips. Works for me every time I get driver flex.

I wasn't bothered by the treble spike either, but foams do attenuate the highs a little and make the ZS6s sound even better IMO.

Thanks. Option 1 did not work. I will try smaller tips when i get home today

I have to say that i tried many times to attenuate that vacuum feeling caused by the driver flex. I can hear it so hard when i put my memt x5 on with silicon tips but since when i use foam tips i don't even remember what driver flex is.
If you need to solve this, just buy a pair of foam tips (even aliexpress 0.50 cents foam tips work for this).
I think imma use them even with mt incoming trn v80 as they even tame the higs and give a little more body to the bass (at least in my memt x5, it's that what i hear).

 

[vegetaleb]

I wonder how good will be the new memory wire design of the ZS4, the ones of the ZSR were already too soft to push the earpices into my ears correctly, the best ones I have are the ATES and ZS3

 

[jeromeaparis]

https://penonaudio.com/kz-iem-upgrade-cable.html T

https://penonaudio.com/kz-iem-upgrade-cable.html Here you go.

These are not KZ cables. They are nice looking, but considering their thickness , I do believe the wires are made of aluminium,
(a cheap metal) plated with another metal. The only metal that sounds good is oxygen free copper: "OFC" and it may be plated with silver,
that enhances the sharpness.