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Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread

  1. groucho69
    I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing a new term to me. We can make it a new term for having similar sound profiles. Or not.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2017
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  2. Fahim Foysal
    I've got three questions questions though.
    1)Does the bass have good thump and rumble?
    2)How are the mids and vocals? Are they recessed, forward or natural?
    3)what is the maximum amount you would you be willing to pay for an iem like the zs6?
     
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  3. Fox2twenty
    Let's hear from all the ZS6 owners. {good questions} :call_me: :call_me:
     
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  4. Wiljen

    Speaking as a Zs6 owner

    1.) Yes, but it is not a boosted bass. The Zs6 has plenty of slam but it is masterfully disguised as a well controlled bass.
    2.) Mids are definitely not the focus of the Zs6 and do take a little bit of a backseat to the treble. I know, odd as we usually talk about mids yielding to bass. This is not to say mids are bad and they are not pronouncedly recessed. Vocals are good if female vocals can be a touch strident due to the treble forward nature of the Zs6.
    3.) I think the Zs6 fits extremely well at the price point it is in ($50 US). I think when you get to the $100 mark there are better choices and part of the appeal of the Zs6 is that it is $100s worth of sound and quality for $50. At the $100 mark the new Fiio 9 or the Magosi are better to my ear.
     
  5. Wiljen
    As a comparison, the Zs6 is a bit like the Fostex T50rp of the IEM world. It has a very strong base but isn't a perfect product. For those willing to play with modding, they both represent a starting point that can create something that sounds way better than the price if you are willing to do the work. On the other hand, I've never heard anyone say that the modified T50rp is better than an LCD-4 and nor will a Zs6 ever dethrone something like the Noble Katana. The fun of the Zs6 is that a $50 entry fee can get you into a $100 to $150 show.
     
  6. Fox2twenty
    Love the entry fee analogy :D
     
  7. HiFiChris Contributor
    Yep. It's strong but (most of the time) not bloated and will probably not be enough to satisfy die-hard bassheads although it is clearly boosted.

    Not really recessed but they aren't in your face either. Upper mids are on the brighter, airier side, however without coming close to being overly thin or unnatural. Here, I see the biggest tuning improvement over the ZS5 v1 that rather often appeared a bit too hollow and distant in the mids for music with a more serious vocal focus.

    Between $420 and $1,099.00 MSRP if a better cable, slightly adjusted visual design and different drivers were used, along with a cool little pin badge.
     
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  8. dbaker1981

    Wiljen pretty much hit it on the head. I’m definitely cool with paying what I did for them.
     
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  9. Fahim Foysal
    I didn't know you owned the f9s. I was looking into the fiio f9s too but couldn't find anyone who listened to both the zs6 and f9. How do they compare in terms of bass, mids, highs and soundstage? I hear f9s have a boost in the 7khz region that makes it a bit fatiguing.
     
  10. dbaker1981

    I wouldn’t say

    I wouldn’t say fatiguing but they are bright. Very clear and detailed. I must say they are probably my favorite iem I own right now. I enjoy them more than my IT03 by a wide margin. The F9’s I’m talking about.
     
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  11. Fahim Foysal
    I would be willing to pay 100k for a toyota corolla if they 'upgraded' it to a lamborghini huracan engine, body, seats, dash, drivetrain, transmission and also a huracan logo..

    Jokes aside. How much would you actually be willing to pay for a stock zs6 assuming you didn't know the retail price.
     
  12. Fahim Foysal
    Glad they sound so good. I will order them after I get hold of some cash.

    I find it odd that all bright iems sound 'detailed' and 'clear'. Is it actual detail that we hear or are our brain tricked into thinking that the sound is detailed when there is a boost in certain parts of the higher frequencies. The feeling of hearing more details than we actually would in a live performance isn't good right?
     
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  13. Wiljen
    Both the F9 and the Zs6 share a hotter than normal treble and both need a bit of EQ or foams to help cut that. Once that is done the Fiio has a bit better upper mids and a better soundstage than the Zs6. Bass is probably a wash between the two as both are very good. Without tuning, both can be a bit sibilant with female vocals. The other big win for the F9 is the fit. Fiio nailed the ergonomics where as the Zs6 will be too big for some and not comfortable for others.
     
  14. Fox2twenty
    That's pretty high pesos, 420 huh?
     
  15. Wiljen
    The Magosi K3 HD is the one to look into if you want something with a more refined treble. The K3 HD has better mids and treble than either the F9 or the Zs6 at the expense of the bass being less present and slightly less extended.
     
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