[John Culter]

Anyone compared Layla universal fit with custom one?

I m using roxanne CM n plan to change to Layla CM, just spend some time to test Layla universal fit again today, the sound is quite warm, the soundstage n dynamic performance r nice, but a little bit 'blur', dunno thats lack of run-in or not.

 

[Oomingmak]

Westone offered custom eartips for universals some time ago called the UM56. I have a pair and they're great, any reason JH Audio doesn't offer something like this? I always hated constantly buying and changing tips, in the end you probably save money.

 

[badwisdom]

 

Wow, that is crazy !

 

[danielpsyd26]

Can you describe the differences in sound qualities between customs vs universal Laylas? Been debating about going the custom route, but would like more opinions before making a decision.

 

[prismstorm]

So I decided on the PlusSound X8 Gold Plated Silver in the end. I also liked the X6 (2 less cables / braids) for the more nimble and portable form factor but I did not want to have any regrets and upgraditis in the future. 
 
The sound is incredibly wide and huge, everything is lush and vocals are sweet and enchanting. Well recorded vocals, jazz and classical sound a lot better than pop / rock. For some reason the latter still sounds huge and arena-like, but lacks the visceral quality and impact (physical register) from stuff like the UM Merlin. Bass is dialed to 3'o clock and it's quite a hefty amount, it introduces a lot of mid-bass warmth and masked a lot of sharpness and brightness from recordings. Sometimes I go all the way to 4/5'o clock positions for heavy coloration and the immersiveness from all the warmth and the sound stage is addicting. Everything sounds euphoric and musical and I greatly love this sound. Everything else sounds tinny and thin and bright to me now even though I know they are not. I am deeply poisoned by this.  
 
It is interesting that the Layla is marketed as a reference / mastering tool, but with this cable, 380 + Amp (warm DAC), and the bass turned nearly to max this is hardly anything reference. Instead I get an incredibly melodic and musical and moving iem. KSE 1500 still renders details much accurately, Angie is still more clean and clear and some other dynamic iems are more dynamic and lively, but the texture and lushness from these Sirens are one of a kind. 
 

 

[LouisArmstrong]

Exactly. Especially after using some Comply foam tips with the net thing, the sound of the Layla is taken to a whole new level - as I said, the improvement is even greater than using the AK380 or changing the cable. I was underwhelmed by the KSE1500 to be honest as I was just listening to my Layla before the audition. And i was just listening to my Layla on iPhone 6S+ and the original cable. YMMV.

 

[dezispop]

Any comments for the sound of CM comparing with universal fit? I think the size of Layla CM is similar as roxanne CM.

 

[Eroica4th]

Exactly. Especially after using some Comply foam tips with the net thing, the sound of the Layla is taken to a whole new level - as I said, the improvement is even greater than using the AK380 or changing the cable. I was underwhelmed by the KSE1500 to be honest as I was just listening to my Layla before the audition. And i was just listening to my Layla on iPhone 6S+ and the original cable. YMMV.

Do they share the same size catogry? The small from comply matches the size of the small tips that are provided with Layla?

 

[LouisArmstrong]

Do they share the same size catogry? The small from comply matches the size of the small tips that are provided with Layla?

Yes same size. You will be amazed. Get the TX-500 or TSX-500 models. Also try turning the bass all the way up on the Layla after buying the tips.

 

[Eroica4th]

Yes same size. You will be amazed. Get the TX-500 or TSX-500 models. Also try turning the bass all the way up on the Layla after buying the tips.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the deference between tx and tsx? Is it the the wax?

 

[LouisArmstrong]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the deference between tx and tsx? Is it the the wax?

TX has even more isolation than TSX and goes a bit deeper.  Both have wax guard.

 

[badwisdom]

 
Yes same size. You will be amazed. Get the TX-500 or TSX-500 models. Also try turning the bass all the way up on the Layla after buying the tips.

Just to give another opinion on these, i tried the TX-500 on my Layla universals, and i found the result terrible: muffled, bloated and all around crappy sound....

 

[LouisArmstrong]

 
Just to give another opinion on these, i tried the TX-500 on my Layla customs, and i found the result terrible: muffled, bloated and all around crappy sound....

Why would you use eartips on custom?

 

[badwisdom]

 
Why would you use eartips on custom?

Sorry, typo. I meant universals

 

[LouisArmstrong]

 
Sorry, typo. I meant universals

I find the sound much richer and fuller with the Comply tips. You need to turn the volume a bit louder than you would listen to on stock eartips and turn up the bass to appreciate the full potential of the Layla. Anyways the tips are cheap compared with the Layla itself so there is no harm trying.