[cj3209]

   
No hidden agenda. She owns the W30's and Linum Music cables and has threatened with physical harm if I take them from her so I'm not going to mess with that.
 
...That said she supports my hobbies to some extend and I support hers. Just because I don't appreciate other hobbies and interests doesn't mean I should look down on it.
 
It's easy to point the finger at another hobby someone has and say, that's weird, you're weird for liking it and you should be made fun of... Na, I try my best to at least consider how it could be of interest even if it doesn't peak mine. 

HOLY COW.  Why go to a marriage therapist when you can read @Jazic's post above which is, IMHO, pretty spot on in how to have a good relationship with just about anyone:  respect, support, and perspective.
 
@Jazic, your post made me smile. and I'm not even a therapist...

 
CJ

 

[ss5972]

Hey guys. I recently came back from a trip to e-headphones in Toyko and had the opportunity to try out the entire siren series universal fits. In theory isnt the angie supposed to be the lesser form of the layla? 
 
In that respect, when i demoed both earphones..... the angie seemed to sound way better to me when compared to the layla (did a 1hr listen test with both)...they didnt sound similar at all.
 
Any thoughts on this?

 

[jehugo]

Any thoughts on this?

Follow your ears

 

[olddude]

Different sound sigs.  So, as above.....

 

[Traveller]

  Hey guys. I recently came back from a trip to e-headphones in Toyko and had the opportunity to try out the entire siren series universal fits. In theory isnt the angie supposed to be the lesser form of the layla? 
 
In that respect, when i demoed both earphones..... the angie seemed to sound way better to me when compared to the layla (did a 1hr listen test with both)...they didnt sound similar at all.
 
Any thoughts on this?

what positions were the cable-pots set to on each...?

 

[Jazic]

Hey guys. I recently came back from a trip to e-headphones in Toyko and had the opportunity to try out the entire siren series universal fits. In theory isnt the angie supposed to be the lesser form of the layla? 

In that respect, when i demoed both earphones..... the angie seemed to sound way better to me when compared to the layla (did a 1hr listen test with both)...they didnt sound similar at all.

Any thoughts on this?

I had both for some time (version 1) and ended up selling the Layla. I found them to be too thick sounding. That said I've never heard layers and texture of music like that before on the Layla.

Ended up keeping the Angies and actually just ordered some customs. They are the best all round iem I've heard.

 

[natalieann]

I had both for some time (version 1) and ended up selling the Layla. I found them to be too thick sounding. That said I've never heard layers and texture of music like that before on the Layla.

Ended up keeping the Angies and actually just ordered some customs. They are the best all round iem I've heard.

Agreed on the best all around

 

[Jazic]

  Agreed on the best all around

 
I don't want to get off topic here but I think I should mention that the Earsonics S-EM9's are pretty darn good and comparable in sound sig to the Angie's but with deeper bass and more sparkling highs. 
 
Like I say I ordered some custom Angie's and dont' have any regrets but if these EM9's came in customs... I'd have to reconsider. 

 

[ss5972]

Follow your ears

 
thats what i thought too! Between angies and the noble k10s at this point for me

  Different sound sigs.  So, as above.....

 
thanks for the input

 
what positions were the cable-pots set to on each...?

 
that might actually be the issue, i was unfamiliar with the adjustments so i asked them to be adjusted the same ... maybe there was an issue with it

I had both for some time (version 1) and ended up selling the Layla. I found them to be too thick sounding. That said I've never heard layers and texture of music like that before on the Layla.

Ended up keeping the Angies and actually just ordered some customs. They are the best all round iem I've heard.

 
thanks for your input!

 

[x RELIC x]

thats what i thought too! Between angies and the noble k10s at this point for me

......

that might actually be the issue, i was unfamiliar with the adjustments so i asked them to be adjusted the same ... maybe there was an issue with it

......

I ended up with both Angie and K10, you can't fight it!

With the bass attenuators set the same the Layla will definitely have more bass. This, combined with slightly recessed mids has me not liking the Layla. I found it be dry sounding. The Angie has enough bass impact as well as slightly elevated mids which seriously clicked with my sonic preferences.

 

[ss5972]

I ended up with both Angie and K10, you can't fight it!

With the bass attenuators set the same the Layla will definitely have more bass. This, combined with slightly recessed mids has me not liking the Layla. I found it be dry sounding. The Angie has enough bass impact as well as slightly elevated mids which seriously clicked with my sonic preferences.

 
Oh nice! Do you mind writing a bit about how you feel about one when compared to the other from a purely comparative standpoint (not favoring a bass heavy enthusiast or anything of that kind)? I know that opinions are purely subjective but its always nice to hear other peoples opinions. I do plan on getting both sooner or later but will probably be quite a while between purchases .....

 

[x RELIC x]

Oh nice! Do you mind writing a bit about how you feel about one when compared to the other from a purely comparative standpoint (not favoring a bass heavy enthusiast or anything of that kind)? I know that opinions are purely subjective but its always nice to hear other peoples opinions. I do plan on getting both sooner or later but will probably be quite a while between purchases .....

I already did..... :wink_face:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/765867/jh-audio-angie-impressions-and-discussion-thread/1590#post_12321440

 

[ss5972]

I already did.....

http://www.head-fi.org/t/765867/jh-audio-angie-impressions-and-discussion-thread/1590#post_12321440

Thanks! I assumed the both that you had were CIEMS but i was wrong....not that it matters though!

 

[Traveller]

Quote:

what positions were the cable-pots set to on each...?

that might actually be the issue, i was unfamiliar with the adjustments so i asked them to be adjusted the same ... maybe there was an issue with it

Quote:

With the bass attenuators set the same the Layla will definitely have more bass. This, combined with slightly recessed mids has me not liking the Layla. I found it be dry sounding. The Angie has enough bass impact as well as slightly elevated mids which seriously clicked with my sonic preferences.

 
As Relic noted, the Layla has a "LF-attenuation" factor of 13dB vs. Angie's 10dB. I would imagine a trained advisor would have set them both around 12 o'clock to give the user an "average" amount of LF attenuation. Said advisor also could have set the Angies to 1o'clock (for example) to compensate for Layla's greater attenuation-range... who knows?
 
My Angies (pictured here at 2 o'clock) are currently set to 1 o'clock.
9 graduations for 10 dB (0 to 10) and assuming 1.25dB per graduation confirms 12o'clock = 5dB attenuation...

 

[ss5972]

  Quote:
 
As Relic noted, the Layla has a "LF-attenuation" factor of 13dB vs. Angie's 10dB. I would imagine a trained advisor would have set them both around 12 o'clock to give the user an "average" amount of LF attenuation. Said advisor also could have set the Angies to 1o'clock (for example) to compensate for Layla's greater attenuation-range... who knows?
 
My Angies (pictured here at 2 o'clock) are currently set to 1 o'clock.
9 graduations for 10 dB (0 to 10) and assuming 1.25dB per graduation confirms 12o'clock = 5dB attenuation...
 

 
Thanks for the informative post Traveller! How do you personally decide where to leave the settings on your earphones and how often do you change it? I would assume you just play it by ear (literally heh) but maybe there is a more procedural method. I have never had earphones that you could adjust before so this is new to me. Thanks again for your responses.