[kostalex]

Nuforce HDP has 24/96 input.

 

[SP Wild]

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Nuforce HDP has 24/96 input.

At the USB?  I am impressed.

 

[kostalex]

Yes.

 

[ironmine]

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Originally Posted by JeroenB /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
In both cases, there is still a need to introduce some pinna cues, but the amount may depend on the type of headphones and personal preferences. 

It would be nice if the plugin could have a menu where the user could choose the type of headphones he uses, what do you think? Different headphone types, different approaches to sound processing... Also, it would be great to have an inbuilt upsampler/oversampler and separate volume controls for each channel...

 

[ironmine]

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I use two DSPs sequentially in Foobar:

• Resampler (PPHS), set to 96 kHz
• George Yohng's VST wrapper (set to Isone)

 
Then I direct Foobar output to WASAPI: USB DAC (Nuforce Icon HDP), set to 24bit / 96 kHz.
 
Is this setup correct?

You may want to dither Isone Pro output (which is 64 bits, I believe) down to 24 bits.
 
You can also try upsamping to 88.4 instead of 96.

 

[ironmine]

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There's several oversampling wrappers you can try (that's the only way to oversample in a VST plugin architecture AFAIK): http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=oversample+vst
 
My fav. VST plugin also does it, its designers said they had to as working on 44.1/48 wasn't accurate enough. 96kHz is not oversampled.

Lee Perry,
What is your favorite plugin?
Which VST oversampler do you recommend based on your experience?

 

[kostalex]

It seems reasonable. How can I dither 64 bits down to 24?
 
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You may want to dither Isone Pro output (which is 64 bits, I believe) down to 24 bits.
 
You can also try upsamping to 88.4 instead of 96.

 

[ironmine]

You can dither using Sonalksis Ultimate-D: www.sonalksis.com/ultimated.htm
 
To have more than one VST plugin running, you'll need to use Acon EffectChainer or Console (also LiveProfessor  or Xlutop Chainer).

 

[leeperry]

 

Lee Perry,
What is your favorite plugin?
Which VST oversampler do you recommend based on your experience?

It's in my avatar actually

 
and that's where they said that it's oversampled: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5101666-post296.html
 
"The oversampling is necessary to avoid aliasing with the saturation, but also helps to get a more accurate response in the upper end. Just as you guys said, we use a steep IIR LP filter as oversampling filter."

And I'd fully agree w/ that guy who says that this EQ gives a more 3D sound...I use a more chirurgical EQ to kill ear resonances accurately(Somnox EQ), then Head-Fit to get a nice xfeed, and then this EQ because it sounds magical and 3D(it just does, try it!):  http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5056504-post89.html
 
"makes the sound more 3D when you push the bands"
 
Christian Budde made a pretty good VST oversampling wrapper I think.
 

You can dither using Sonalksis Ultimate-D: www.sonalksis.com/ultimated.htm

Izotope Ozone4 also has quite a lot of dithering algorithms...I use volume attenuation in uLilith so I can't try them, but its EQ part is lousy so I wouldn't put my hopes too high. Ozone4 is fantastic for some things, but not quite an "all in one" package IME.

 

[ironmine]

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And I'd fully agree w/ that guy who says that this EQ gives a more 3D sound...I use a more chirurgical EQ to kill ear resonances accurately (Somnox EQ), then Head-Fit to get a nice xfeed, and then this EQ because it sounds magical and 3D (it just does, try it!):  http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5056504-post89.html
 
"makes the sound more 3D when you push the bands"
 

 
Lee Perry,
 
You are always full of interesting ideas
 
How do you know which ear resonances do you have?  And why do you have to kill them if these resonances are the intrinsic features of your ears?  You don't go so far as trying to tweak what nature gave to you, are you? Just kidding...
 
Could you please share with me which settings you use in Trident A-Range to make the sound more 3D?
 

 

[poico]

Ossicular resonance modes of the human middle ear for bone and air conduction
 
"The mean resonance frequency of the human middle ear under air conduction (AC) excitation is known to be around 0.8–1.2 kHz. However, studies suggest that the mean resonance frequency under bone conduction (BC) excitation is at a higher frequency around 1.5–2 kHz. To identify the cause for this difference, middle-ear responses to both AC and BC excitations were measured at the umbo and lateral process of the malleus using five human cadaver temporal bones..."
 

 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2852437/
 
 
 

 

[poico]

Ossicular resonance modes of the human middle ear for bone and air conduction
 
 
"The mean resonance frequency of the human middle ear under air conduction (AC) excitation is known to be around 0.8–1.2 kHz. However, studies suggest that the mean resonance frequency under bone conduction (BC) excitation is at a higher frequency around 1.5–2 kHz. To identify the cause for this difference, middle-ear responses to both AC and BC excitations were measured at the umbo and lateral process of the malleus using five human cadaver temporal bones. The resonance modes identified from these measurements, along with finite element analysis results, indicate the presence of two ossicular modes below 2 kHz..."
 

 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2852437/
 
 
 

 

[leeperry]

 

 
How do you know which ear resonances do you have?  And why do you have to kill them if these resonances are the intrinsic features of your ears?  You don't go so far as trying to tweak what nature gave to you, are you? Just kidding...
 
Could you please share with me which settings you use in Trident A-Range to make the sound more 3D? 

 
There's a tutorial here: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial
 
and another one here: http://www.davidgriesinger.com/headphones.htm
 
Personally, I kill 2 nasty spikes around 6400 and 9700Hz.
 
Well, you try it you tell me...we're a knowledge sharing community, and I wouldn't want to influence your judgment

. Besides we're in the Isone Pro thread

 

[ironmine]

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Ossicular resonance modes of the human middle ear for bone and air conduction
 

 
Poico,
These are the natural ear resonances which you really don't want to remove We should try to remove headphone resonances, not ear resonances.
 

 

[JennaFF]

http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm
You can use that software with the plugin and set it up to listen to the line in port, then play it back out at the same time from the line out/headphone port.