[Watchafree]

Guys,

my ISN H40 have severe driver flex, both side, penon wants me to return it but don't know if it's normal because none of you talk about it.

 

[HerrXRDS]

Guys,

my ISN H40 have severe driver flex, both side, penon wants me to return it but don't know if it's normal because none of you talk about it.

Yes, driver flex is present and also vacuum effect. Sometimes it flexes even when I move my jaw, different tips will alleviate the problem to some degree but yeah, this is how they were designed. I am surprised more people aren't bothered by this, to me it's a major flaw, especially when there are so many IEMs out there with way better bass that have absolutely zero flex even if you insert them at 100 MPH so the engineering exists. Lazy design if you ask me.

 

[Dsnuts]

I just insert the iems slowly in my ear. Not a big deal. A little driver flex isn't gonna kill your H40 but if your in doubt you can alway contact Penon. I have some minor flex on my left ear piece but not enough to mention that it is a problem. If flex bothers you try some foam tips which ends up sounding good anyway.

 

[Dsnuts]

In other news.. New IEM out of ISN.. ISN D10. Will post a bit more about them on the discovery thread. You heard about it here first.

 

[davidmolliere]

In other news.. New IEM out of ISN.. ISN D10. Will post a bit more about them on the discovery thread. You heard about it here first.

Interested!

 

[Dsnuts]

Ya it will be a single dynamic in ear designed by the same team that made the ISN H40. RP of $175 I believe. They seem to have more than a sequal to the H40 in mind. Should be interesting. I will let you guys know when these will be available and final specs and such soon.

 

[sica]

Hoping for a DLC driver

 

[DynamicEars]

$175 for single DD is a bit steep IMHO, considering the 4 drivers H40 is $195. But if they managed to have great tuning and great soundstage like H40 it may works.

About driverr flexes on H40 yes Im experiencing that too but it didnt bother me too much. But yes I got driver flex, often.

 

[Dsnuts]

2 ways to lessen driver flex. Try wide mouthed foam tips which you can just insert in your ears and go. If your using silicone tips take your time with insertion. As long as you slow down the insertion and have a good fit in your ears all should be good. It is only when you insert quickly is when I hear flex. Also try opening your mouth to open your ears a touch. Should help. Some driver flex will not deteriorate the sound quality of the H40. I have heard numerous dynamic in ears with driver flex.

Never had to send one packing ever.

 

[quick1]

Ya it will be a single dynamic in ear designed by the same team that made the ISN H40. RP of $175 I believe. They seem to have more than a sequal to the H40 in mind. Should be interesting. I will let you guys know when these will be available and final specs and such soon.

Hmm..
Would you say that it's supposed to be an Equal or an Upgrade?
-However-
Thinking of price- Maybe they don't want to charge H40 money for it because it's only a single driver Vs. four?
It's still pretty damn close. When you're that high in price another $20. is nothing. Knock that price down to $100-125, now you've got a lot more people seriously thinking about that move. As long as it's all on point without a sound degrading compromise that is.

As mentioned that seems to be a lot of $ for a single driver. My thinking could be seriously flawed here but I'd think it should top at about $100 for a single. Not nearly as many parts there. Then again the parts could claim to be hand crafted by Hobbits from a submerged, cryo frozen, prehistoric meteor that was filled with diamonds that surrounded the first known alien in existence that's now working at the Pentagon. Lovingly tuned by Elvis, then hand packed by Jimmy Hoffa.
Hardy har har

But hey, a lot of you guys have me beat by some serious years in the IEM game. That's why I come here.
It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. But then again not many people are willing to bid 100,000 for blown tires from the first Tour da France.

Yes I'm in a joking mood

 

[quick1]

$175 for single DD is a bit steep IMHO, considering the 4 drivers H40 is $195. But if they managed to have great tuning and great soundstage like H40 it may works.

About driverr flexes on H40 yes Im experiencing that too but it didnt bother me too much. But yes I got driver flex, often.

GOT...
Did you get rid of them?
If so why did you get rid of them and/ or what did you move to?

 

[Dsnuts]

Retail Price is a certain value mark made by the manufacturers. Material and mostly RnD goes into play designing an earphone and the cost associated with it. Going by how ISN charges for their cables and in ears. I bet that $175 is an aggressive price mark. I was told it will compete with $300 plus in ears. And I have zero doubts about this too based on their track record.

The ISN fellas know their sound. Their first effort was the H40 and has a dedicated thread we have here. I can't think of how many manufacturers out of China that make IEMs but don't get a sniff of nothing on these threads as they don't amount to much. These guys make one iem and it has a dedicated fan base?

It is all about implementation. What is the chance that their new D10 is the dynamic version of the H40 we all are talking about here. Maybe even better? A well implemented dynamic iem covers the entire sound spectrum and can have outstanding sound quality. Some of the most legendary flagships headphones and earphones all use good old dynamic technology.

I have earphones that have 14 drivers in them that don't cover the entire sound sonically as good as a single dynamic that sounds more complete. Driver count don't mean a thang.

 

[expatriot]

Ibasso IT01S $199 and there are some single Dynamics much more than that. My H40 has severe driver flex in the left side, but only upon insertion.

 

[kdphan]

There are plenty of dynamic driver IEMs that can range in retail for $1k to $2k
Some great, some okay.

Listen to them (even the new ISN D10) before deciding if they're overpriced.

I think I have 4 single DD IEMs at this time. Yes, I love me some DD

 

[expatriot]

I have the Hifiman RE 600S v2, Ibasso IT01S, and the best one of all (for me) the NF Audio NA1.