iPod Classic!

[NeObliviscaris]

guess who just got a 160gb ipod

w000t

ripping all my cds as flac now

its sexy!

 

[monolith]

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Originally Posted by FeedMeTrance /img/forum/go_quote.gif ripping all my cds as flac now its sexy!

Wouldn't you want to rip them in ALAC if you want to play them on your new iPod?

 

[Sparky191]

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Originally Posted by Chef Medeski /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah that has been my current standtard. 256 VBR AAC or 320 VBR MP3. It seems the trouble of encoding stuff in Lame isnt worth the marginal decrease in space.

I think its worth it to have a library that will play on any device.

 

[NeObliviscaris]

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Originally Posted by monolith /img/forum/go_quote.gif Wouldn't you want to rip them in ALAC if you want to play them on your new iPod?

yeah but i have to rip to flac, then convert to alac

 

[OvidiuDanut]

Please let us know how you find the sound if it, some of us are thinking about going portable (me)

 

[Febs]

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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif AAC VBR is better sounding for the same filesize than LAME. You can get away with 192 or 256 with AAC.

I'm not aware of any listening tests that compare recent versions of LAME -V0 (roughly 245kbps) with AAC 256kbps or LAME -V2 (roughly 190kbps) with AAC 192kbps. Can you point me to any such tests? Since all of these codecs are transparent to most listeners at those bitrates, I'm skeptical of the claim that "AAC VBR is better sounding for the same filesize than LAME" at those bitrates.

 

[Chef Medeski]

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Originally Posted by mirumu /img/forum/go_quote.gif There was a LAME plugin for iTunes on the Mac but the project website appears to be broken currently. It haven't used it for a long time myself since I rip everything lossless but when I did LAME was a lot better than the default iTunes encoder.

The only problem I have with this, is it messes up all the file names. And while it does sound better than 320 VBR MP3, I have 8000 songs. How can I convert them all and then go back and change each name individually? So unless I find a smoother way to do it, I dont think its worth the space. Cause really its only like a 14-20% increase, which on my new Classic won't matter so much.

 

[OverlordXenu]

I'm surprised how many head-fi'ers are getting the Classic. I guess you're all getting LOD's too? Because AFAIK, the HP out is still disgusting...

 

[Night Surfer]

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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm surprised how many head-fi'ers are getting the Classic. I guess you're all getting LOD's too? Because AFAIK, the HP out is still disgusting...

You haven't been paying attention. Initial reports and Vinnie's research indicate that the Classic HP out is similar to the 1st G Shuffle: quite good.

 

[Sparky191]

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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm surprised how many head-fi'ers are getting the Classic. I guess you're all getting LOD's too? Because AFAIK, the HP out is still disgusting...

Define disgusting.

 

[Chef Medeski]

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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm surprised how many head-fi'ers are getting the Classic. I guess you're all getting LOD's too? Because AFAIK, the HP out is still disgusting...

YEAH CAUSE WE ALL LOVE CARRYING AROUND A TEXTBOOK WORTH OF STUFF WITH US JUST TO LISTEN TO A SONG ON THE BUS!!!!

Just because it doesnt sound as good as a Meridian CD player doesn't mean we aren't going to buy it. SQ is only one part of the equation. And it seems the 6G iPod goes up well against all other competitors. So what else do you sggest, a Zune? Which should be quite close, but only has 30GB!!! Oh Yeah and for those who want to fill a 160GB HD, what other options do they have?

Stop being so damn annoying with what others should do. You're surprised, thats great. You're an idiot though if you think we're goin stop buying iPods cause they all don't sound like iMods stock and being 10 mm thin....

 

[skip]

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Originally Posted by Night Surfer /img/forum/go_quote.gif You haven't been paying attention. Initial reports and Vinnie's research indicate that the Classic HP out is similar to the 1st G Shuffle: quite good.

I concur although I still prefer listening through an ALO silk dock and RSA hornet as the poor thing still struggles to drive my AKG K701's by itself!

 

[ILikeMusic]

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AAC VBR is better sounding for the same filesize than LAME. You can get away with 192 or 256 with AAC. I'm not aware of any listening tests that compare recent versions of LAME -V0 (roughly 245kbps) with AAC 256kbps or LAME -V2 (roughly 190kbps) with AAC 192kbps. Can you point me to any such tests? Since all of these codecs are transparent to most listeners at those bitrates, I'm skeptical of the claim that "AAC VBR is better sounding for the same filesize than LAME" at those bitrates.

+1

There were some older tests indicating a slight preference for AAC at low bitrates, but it would incorrect to assume that this simply scales up as bitrates increase. I'm not aware of any creditable data indicating that there is any audible difference between the current LAME version and AAC at higher bitrates.

 

[Chef Medeski]

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Originally Posted by ILikeMusic /img/forum/go_quote.gif +1 There were some older tests indicating a slight preference for AAC at low bitrates, but it would incorrect to assume that this simply scales up as bitrates increase. I'm not aware of any creditable data indicating that there is any audible difference between the current LAME version and AAC at higher bitrates.

Well I did some of my own informal tests. And I do realize they are quite close. But I found 320 AAC to be comparable to 320 MP3 LAME VBR. The only difference is that the MP3 LAME is about 25% smaller in size. Interestingly as well the 256 MP3 LAME VBR was only like .2 MB smaller than the 320 MP3. So I found that AAC is quite close to LAME in most respects (iTunes MP3 is def. worst but not that bad in comparison), I only tested 256-320 kbps. But the LAME did end up with smaller filesizes across the board. I've decided to go with 320 MP3 LAME VBR. Since its only marginally larger then 256 LAME and sounds about the best or on par with the best. Plus I figured out with Max how to convert files, which means my current ALAC files can be converted to LAME without losing all their formatting like the iTunes-plugin does.

 

[mirumu]

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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm surprised how many head-fi'ers are getting the Classic. I guess you're all getting LOD's too? Because AFAIK, the HP out is still disgusting...

Where'd you get that idea from? The Classic is not going to have people selling their $1500 CD players but it's pretty decent as far as portables go and in my experience is a step up from the previous iPods I've heard.