iPhone 7 Will Revolutionize Portable Audio for the First Time in a Decade
Nov 30, 2016 at 11:58 PM Post #1,141 of 1,216
Well I tried one of those type C to lightning connectors to connect the dongle to an Android device. No go, nothing gets recognized. I tried using UAPP and still nothing. I also had a micro USB connector and connected it to older devices and tablets....no go. Oh well. I have tried to different brands as well with same results. If anyone can think of any tricks, let me know.
 
Dec 1, 2016 at 7:35 AM Post #1,142 of 1,216
Well I tried one of those type C to lightning connectors to connect the dongle to an Android device. No go, nothing gets recognized. I tried using UAPP and still nothing. I also had a micro USB connector and connected it to older devices and tablets....no go. Oh well. I have tried to different brands as well with same results. If anyone can think of any tricks, let me know.


I can't see them working as Android is expecting to see an audio device that us USB audio class compliant; the lightning dongle isn't likely to be a USB audio device in disguise.
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 12:21 AM Post #1,144 of 1,216
Hi everyone,

I''m new to the thread and thought I'd "chip" in (sorry couldn't resist) as I'm a fellow SE846 and iPhone owner.

So, am I to understand (given what's been said on the previous page) 'the iPhone 7 dongle improves the 8's sound. I would have thought it would be the polar opposite. A completely baseless presumption, but with $1,000-$1,500 to blow on new kit I want to make the right decision. A 256GB iPhone would be a wonderful thing (not to mention the 2x optical camera which will bolster the device's usefulness as a vision impairment visual aide).
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 1:28 AM Post #1,145 of 1,216
Hi everyone,

I''m new to the thread and thought I'd "chip" in (sorry couldn't resist) as I'm a fellow SE846 and iPhone owner.

So, am I to understand (given what's been said on the previous page) 'the iPhone 7 dongle improves the 8's sound. I would have thought it would be the polar opposite. A completely baseless presumption, but with $1,000-$1,500 to blow on new kit I want to make the right decision. A 256GB iPhone would be a wonderful thing (not to mention the 2x optical camera which will bolster the device's usefulness as a vision impairment visual aide).


The general consensus is that the DAC inside the dongle that comes with the iPhone 7 is better than the DAC in past iPhones, but it's not going to make a significant difference. Get a new phone if you need a new phone, not because of a marginal improvement in audio quality.
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 3:10 AM Post #1,146 of 1,216
^ Yah, the only reason for an upgrade (sans incramental improvements in the camera) is a capacity boost, but I''m also weighing up the options of an AK70 or an iPad with 256MB capacity.

So long as there':s no decrease in SQ. I need to take the iPhone 7's camera for a test drive before committing to that option.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 5:30 AM Post #1,147 of 1,216
Hi everyone,

I''m new to the thread and thought I'd "chip" in (sorry couldn't resist) as I'm a fellow SE846 and iPhone owner.

So, am I to understand (given what's been said on the previous page) 'the iPhone 7 dongle improves the 8's sound. I would have thought it would be the polar opposite. A completely baseless presumption, but with $1,000-$1,500 to blow on new kit I want to make the right decision. A 256GB iPhone would be a wonderful thing (not to mention the 2x optical camera which will bolster the device's usefulness as a vision impairment visual aide).

With that budget, maybe you're better off getting a cheaper iphone (i.e. 6s) + Audioquest Dragon Fly Red (199) + Lightning OTG Cable. I heard this combination rivals that of more expensive DAPs from the likes of A&K AK120. see link below :
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/04/audioquests-dragonfly-red-puts-high-end-daps-on-notice/
 
As for the iphone 7 dongle, its pretty good for what it is. It sounds better than my Standalone Desktop DAC+AMP - Fiio E10 
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 10:42 PM Post #1,148 of 1,216
I already have an iPhone 6S Plus (64GB) and could really do with the extra storage capacity. :)
 
Dec 4, 2016 at 2:48 AM Post #1,150 of 1,216
sorry for the stupid question but what "class" amp is the iPhone? Obviously not class A or B...


Virtually all amps in non specialist portable gear are class D due to their small size and power efficiency, and the fact that they can work directly with the digital signal - basically they're often the DAC as well.

Class-D_amplifier
 
Dec 4, 2016 at 8:35 AM Post #1,152 of 1,216
  sorry for the stupid question but what "class" amp is the iPhone? Obviously not class A or B...

 
IMO there's no discrete amp implementation (aka Class A, A/B, etc.) in there other than small opamps that providing gain to their puny power.
 
Dec 11, 2016 at 12:34 PM Post #1,153 of 1,216
I have started using the Lightning to Headphone adapter all the time on my iPhone 6s Plus. I am glad that the volume on my European iPhone 6s Plus is still uncapped using the adapter and can go loud.


Does this mean that the volume limit imposed on European iphones is eliminated with the Apple
adapter?
Sorry for my English, I'm Italian
 
Dec 11, 2016 at 4:54 PM Post #1,154 of 1,216
apparently apple only removed the jack because they thought they'd have the AirPods out in time (they've been in development since 2013). AirPods seem like an interesting idea but the lack of isolation makes them a poor fit for me. I'd sooner get the QC35s. They hassle factor is not significantly more (especially since they can last longer on a charge) and they remain the gold standard for ANC.
 
If chinese companies can knockoff the k3003 for under $100, now that Samsung owns AKG, they should definitely bundle k3003 in the box with a forthcoming top-flight flagship.
 
Dec 15, 2016 at 7:50 AM Post #1,155 of 1,216
I picked up a Sony MUC-M2BT1 (horrible name), which packs 7,5 hours of battery life into a nasty neckband. It only works with MMCX, but damn, is it better than the competition in a few areas. The major one is battery life. After that is noise level. Noise, typically high in BT amps/DACs, is increasingly small, approaching the levels of portable headphone amps. It is usable with sensitive earphones no problem. No nasty signal flares and no background ticks. But ugly and unwieldy.
 

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