iPhone 7 Will Revolutionize Portable Audio for the First Time in a Decade

[trellus]

How bout an android that supports flac instead of bs proprietary apple formats forcing you to convert your files for one stupid player with non expandable coverage and a horrible music app ui?

Third-party apps give you FLAC on iOS.

Had Android before for about 6 months - Samsung Galaxy S3, loved the screen, but like many, prefer iOS experience to Android experience.

 

[RugbyPlayer]

Third-party apps give you FLAC on iOS.

Had Android before for about 6 months - Samsung Galaxy S3, loved the screen, but like many, prefer iOS experience to Android experience.

Only if you use third partyear software to transfer it. So 3rd party softeared to get an non natively supported file onto a device using a non native player. Great experience bro

 

[audioxxx]

How does this affect you?

Thanks for your concern, me i don't have any shares or interest in iPhone, and haven't owned one since iPhone4, and will not personally be controlled by an apple eco system, (although Android are catching up in this issue you can still be quite free)

I do feel for people who didn't want to use wireless headphones, or carry a dongle, quite a short-sighted outlook really. And at a time where iPhone is loosing their grip on the cell phone market due to other Chinese manufacture's optimising audio and cutting costs. Bold moves like cutting off yet another useful standard, like headphone out socket, is well, IMO just stupid.

 

[93EXCivic]

I do think that the iPhone 7 won't sell as well as previous iPhones have because it is more of a "you either hate it or love it" product than any other iPhone.

I think that is the problem for Apple very very few who doesn't have an iPhone now are going to go out are going to go buy an iPhone because it doesn't have a 3.5mm Jack. But I believe plenty of people are going to not buy the phone because it doesn't have the jack.

I think ultimately for me the 3.5mm jack decision is the thing that broke the camels back and made me decide to move away from the iPhone. When I first bought an iPhone, it had by many miles the best OS and user interface (I was coming from a Blackberry and those early Androids were just awful). Now the Androids are a lot more competitive in terms of OS and GUI (I still think the iPhone is a little better) but it is possible to get much better features with Androids now (better on-board DACs, better cameras, better screen resolution, removable batteries, 3.5mm headphone jacks, industry standard connections, etc) that for me the iPhone just isn't the best choice on the market anymore.

Apple has done a number of market changing products (iPhone, iPod and iPad) and I'd say a lot of the strength of this site is directly because of success of the iPod and iPhone. But Apple in my opinion has let themselves fall behind the market at least in regards to cell phones.

Also is anyone surprised that the views are so extreme? The three worst things to talk about on the Internet are Politics, Religion and Apple vs Android.

 

[dbaker1981]

This is the future that i envision: what Audeze is already doing. Dac/amp in the cable, lightning plug.

Have you heard these? I like audeze a lot but these are not very good when using that cable. They sounded to me like beats. And dont forget those are $500.

 

[bflat]

How bout an android that supports flac instead of bs proprietary apple formats forcing you to convert your files for one stupid player with non expandable coverage and a horrible music app ui?

A couple clarifications:
 
1) ALAC and AAC are open source formats, even though Apple authored them.
2) Lossless formats like FLAC and ALAC can be converted back and forth with no loss of data.
3) My home computer is a Mac and Android transfer to move tracks from my Mac to an Android device is a horrible experience.
4) Using iTunes to drag and drop music tracks into the Onkyo HF app folder works great and wirelessly.
 
I did buy a cheap Android phone as a transport (Sony Xperia Z5 Compact), but then I have to carry around 2 smartphone devices that do the same thing. I then upgraded to an Android DAP - Onkyo DP-X1. While it sounds great, it still falls short of CDM and Mojo, so that is why I'm back to best transport that works for me connected to one of my portable amp/DACs.
 
I agree the prior models of iPhone which topped out at 128 GB was not viable for my music library, but now the 7 has 256 GB which is all I will need for quite some time. Again I don't want to discuss why I prefer iPhone smartphone capabilities because it has nothing to do with audio or this forum, so I still don't see what I am missing out by using an iPhone as a pure transport. Other than UI, using my iPhone as transport should sound no different than using an AK380Cu as a transport for my CDM.

 

[RugbyPlayer]

A couple clarifications:

1) ALAC and AAC are open source formats, even though Apple authored them.
2) Lossless formats like FLAC and ALAC can be converted back and forth with no loss of data.
3) My home computer is a Mac and Android transfer to move tracks from my Mac to an Android device is a horrible experience.
4) Using iTunes to drag and drop music tracks into the Onkyo HF app folder works great and wirelessly.

I did buy a cheap Android phone as a transport (Sony Xperia Z5 Compact), but then I have to carry around 2 smartphone devices that do the same thing. I then upgraded to an Android DAP - Onkyo DP-X1. While it sounds great, it still falls short of CDM and Mojo, so that is why I'm back to best transport that works for me connected to one of my portable amp/DACs.

I agree the prior models of iPhone which topped out at 128 GB was not viable for my music library, but now the 7 has 256 GB which is all I will need for quite some time. Again I don't want to discuss why I prefer iPhone smartphone capabilities because it has nothing to do with audio or this forum, so I still don't see what I am missing out by using an iPhone as a pure transport. Other than UI, using my iPhone as transport should sound no different than using an AK380Cu as a transport for my CDM.

So your saying dragging and dropping files is easier with iTunes than dragging and dropping into the file browser where you android shows up? Yeah ok

 

[crabwalker]

I just purchased my S7 edge today.  Taking a little bit to get everyting configured and some little quirks that are different going from an Iphone to aandriod, but overall it's been a smooth process.

 

[Double-A]

@bflat: Not going into why you like the iPhone is a good idea. Certain posters in this thread would only tell you their opinion about why you liking the iPhone is wrong instead of just accepting that you like the iPhone, telling themselves that they don't have to agree with you but that it is OK for you to have your own preference, and moving on. And before anyone gets their panties in a twist, that was not directed at anybody in particular.

 

[RugbyPlayer]

@bflat: Not going into why you like the iPhone is a good idea. Certain posters in this thread would only tell you their opinion about why you liking the iPhone is wrong instead of just accepting that you like the iPhone, telling themselves that they don't have to agree with you but that it is OK for you to have your own preference, and moving on.

Not posting pure BS in defence of apple is usually a pretty good idea. People tend to call you out for blindly insisting apple does it better

 

[bflat]

So your saying dragging and dropping files is easier with iTunes than dragging and dropping into the file browser where you android shows up? Yeah ok

That's not how it works on a Mac. Android devices will not show up in the same file browser like you see in Windows. You have to use a freeware tool called Android Transfer Program or "ATP" for short. While you also simply drag and drop files into ATP, it has a nasty habit of freezing up if the amount of files you are transferring is too big. It will also hang sometimes if the device goes into screen lock mode. Some Android devices work better than others but in my personal experience each one had it's own quirks when it came to using ATP. My prior AK240 would not transfer more than about 20 GB of files at a time and would only work with certain USB cables.

 

[trellus]

Only if you use third partyear software to transfer it. So 3rd party softeared to get an non natively supported file onto a device using a non native player. Great experience bro

Certainly, it would be even easier if Apple directly supported FLAC in the built-in Music app, but frankly, I have found the Music app has degraded in quality sufficiently enough since my first iPhone (3GS) that I don't find third-party players to degrade my experience, but in fact, to upgrade it.
 
As for transferring music using third party software, again, that isn't much of a different experience than syncing the Apple-blessed solution of iTunes.  
 
I used to use sync my music from iTunes to my phone, but now I just use iTunes Match and download my iTunes content on demand, or stream it.
 
Thus, lossless music isn't part of that experience in any case, since, at least from my memory, ALAC is not supported in iTunes Match -- you'll get AAC-256 versions of the music.
 
In any case, I rarely use anything besides Tidal for lossless on my iPhone. 

 

[Whitigir]

lol, you want 3.5 mm and lightning to charge together ? Buy the dock...too bad, you can't carry it around

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/ML8J2AM/A/iphone-lightning-dock-silver

 

[Double-A]

On an unrelated note, is there anybody else in this thread who thinks that the iPhone was a more attractive looking phone back in the days of the 4/4s? I personally think that Apple should go back to that look for the iPhone. Those were good-looking phones.

 

[dbaker1981]

On an unrelated note, is there anybody else in this thread who thinks that the iPhone was a more attractive looking phone back in the days of the 4/4s? I personally think that Apple should go back to that look for the iPhone. Those were good-looking phones.

I liked the 5s design myself.