Introducing the Astell&Kern A&ultima SP2000T
Dec 27, 2021 at 3:04 PM Post #406 of 455
Can anyone confirm they can use Roon and the tube mode at the same time? Going to demo today but doubt I’ll be able to test Roon. Every DAP I have used with a tube has had this issue.
Roon can be used in any of the amp modes and Roon will display what amp mode is being used.

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Dec 27, 2021 at 3:48 PM Post #408 of 455
Dec 27, 2021 at 3:51 PM Post #409 of 455
Appreciate the response. Have you tested Roon in the tube mode? Any RFI issues?
Sorry, wrote the response and forgot to hit post. yes, use tube mode primarily with Roon. Once in a while I notice RFI with Roon when a track first starts, only for a second or two and not often. As I mentioned previously, I do notice it for a second or two when starting a track using streaming apps on my slower backup internet connection, but not with my main Internet connection which is a 1G fiber connection.
 
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Dec 27, 2021 at 4:00 PM Post #410 of 455
Sorry, wrote the response and forgot to hit post. yes, use tube mode primarily with Roon. Once in a while I notice RFI with Roon when a track first starts, only for a second or two and not often. As I mentioned previously, I do notice it for a second or two when starting a track using streaming apps on my slower backup internet connection, but not with my main Internet connection which is a 1G fiber connection.
Same experience. 600 Mb fiber wifi connection. Buzzing is present for a few seconds. 6/7 seconds audible with the A&K Solaris X. With Focal Celestee, less sensitive, buzzing audible for 2/3 seconds. Each one must decide if it seems important or not. "And yet it moves" :L3000::L3000:
 
Dec 29, 2021 at 2:25 AM Post #412 of 455
Hmmm... That means that this dap is "wi fi router dependable" and I have a "compatible model of wi fi router" cause I have no issues while streaming via wi fi tidal and qobuz. But that doesn't explain why I have no hissing with my Solaris SE and Andromeda? Tried to hear any hissing on hybrid and tube mode for an hour on different tracks and failed, zero hissing... probably that's because I use aftermarket cables with my iems.
 
Dec 29, 2021 at 11:57 AM Post #413 of 455
Hmmm... That means that this dap is "wi fi router dependable" and I have a "compatible model of wi fi router" cause I have no issues while streaming via wi fi tidal and qobuz. But that doesn't explain why I have no hissing with my Solaris SE and Andromeda? Tried to hear any hissing on hybrid and tube mode for an hour on different tracks and failed, zero hissing... probably that's because I use aftermarket cables with my iems.

I didn't notice any hiss either, all safe. The noise everyone is talking about is not a hiss, but a buzzing distortion, I spoke with a few users to understand it better, so it is safe, no one should be having any hiss :)
 
Dec 30, 2021 at 7:24 AM Post #414 of 455
Now i have second unit 2000T and hissing anb buzzing from tube in offline mode is annoying. When song is quiet there is no black background in tube and hybrid mode. OP mode is fine. Korg has big disortion and You can hear it with sesitive iems like Mest MK2. With SP2000 blackground is dark as hell :wink:
I dont use online mode so official opinion about to slow wifi is little odd.
 
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Dec 30, 2021 at 5:06 PM Post #415 of 455
Now i have second unit 2000T and hissing anb buzzing from tube in offline mode is annoying. When song is quiet there is no black background in tube and hybrid mode. OP mode is fine. Korg has big disortion and You can hear it with sesitive iems like Mest MK2. With SP2000 blackground is dark as hell :wink:
I dont use online mode so official opinion about to slow wifi is little odd.
Then I don't understand why some people have hissing and buzzing and the others (like me) have not. My Solaris SE are quite sensitive too but I don't have any issues (hissing or buzzing) online and offline (qobuz and tidal downloaded tracks, albums and playlists ).
 
Dec 31, 2021 at 5:06 AM Post #416 of 455
I do not know too. Maybe diffrent iems, maybe quality control from AK, maybe you are not sensitive for that. I have had Andromeda for a long time, and first what i do when new dap arives i check hiss :wink:
But the wort thing is that few people on this forum wrote about this, AK know that there is a problem form long time ago (demo unit) and official all what they can cay is its wifi problem xD How its possible when i use only offline files?
To be sure i borrow from shop second unit but there is the same problem. Its frome tube 100% because on OP mode is ok
 
Dec 31, 2021 at 5:38 AM Post #417 of 455
I do not know too. Maybe diffrent iems, maybe quality control from AK, maybe you are not sensitive for that. I have had Andromeda for a long time, and first what i do when new dap arives i check hiss :wink:
But the wort thing is that few people on this forum wrote about this, AK know that there is a problem form long time ago (demo unit) and official all what they can cay is its wifi problem xD How its possible when i use only offline files?
To be sure i borrow from shop second unit but there is the same problem. Its frome tube 100% because on OP mode is ok
Wifi (or RFI) can come from every thing around you that is connected to the Wifi (or Bluetooth). The radio frequencies are in the air and can be picked up by the tubes.

I had similar problems with the BX-4. That is only a portable tube AMP.
 
Dec 31, 2021 at 6:15 AM Post #418 of 455
Wifi (or RFI) can come from every thing around you that is connected to the Wifi (or Bluetooth). The radio frequencies are in the air and can be picked up by the tubes.

I had similar problems with the BX-4. That is only a portable tube AMP.
I did quick test. Turn off wifi at home, selfphones on plane mode, all laptops off and still the same.
SP2000T-Mest Mk2 4.4 bal - Hans Zimmer - Dune - Dream of Arrakis - hiss from start to 10 sek, 38 sek-1.10 sek, 3.05-3.10 on Tube and Hybrid mode.
Maybe i can try to find 3rd unit:wink:
 
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Jan 2, 2022 at 6:43 AM Post #419 of 455
I have A&K Ultima sp 2000T already for rwo months now and I must say this is the best sounding android DAP I've ever heard in terms of 3d sound soundstage, musicality, tonality and timbre in hybrid and tube mode, I really love it and even prefer it over spk2. Sold my Shanling m8 and A&K Ultima 1000m gold edition.
 

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