[rottoman]

Totally understandable. But those tweaks don't necessarily make something "better". And even worse, virtually every track may benefit from a different "tweak". So to avoid a maddening, never-ending insanity, I've come to realize that a BLEND of capabilities is best overall for me to enjoy my music. I'm actually listening to Enigma+ (stock) now after having the Neo3+CadmusXAres in my ears for the last few hours and I'm 100% enjoying the experience. It's a virtual 180-degree shift in sound (ok, maybe 135 degrees), but it's immensely enjoyable.

The Enigma+ will remain in my ears for the rest of the night. Such a soothing, satisfying sound. Absolutely NOTHING to complain about. Life is good.

Makes sense. I've just been using the enigma+ with the eros s for a while.
Just tweaking the filters here and there.
I just reduced the lower filter from gold to grey and the bass just had more punch. Isn't it supposed to reduce ?
I have one other code 23 cable which I will try after a few weeks with the Enigma+

 

[bk123]

Makes sense. I've just been using the enigma+ with the eros s for a while.
Just tweaking the filters here and there.
I just reduced the lower filter from gold to grey and the bass just had more punch. Isn't it supposed to reduce ?
I have one other code 23 cable which I will try after a few weeks with the Enigma+

Is your gold lower installed with a very thin plastic like mesh? If yes, then that's the primary reason of analogish type ( a bit congested)bass with it.
I personally like grey lower as it is the most balance and clean out of all the lowers.

 

[rottoman]

Is your gold lower installed with a very thin plastic like mesh? If yes, then that's the primary reason of analogish type ( a bit congested)bass with it.
I personally like grey lower as it is the most balance and clean out of all the lowers.

I don't see any mesh on any of the lowers ! I can only see a mesh and padding on the uppers. Can you show me a picture of what you are talking about by any chance ?
Yes grey lower is cleaner than gold.

 

[bk123]

I don't see any mesh on any of the lowers ! I can only see a mesh and padding on the uppers. Can you show me a picture of what you are talking about by any chance ?
Yes grey lower is cleaner than gold.

I am a bit old school; don't use smartphone and so don't have anything handy to take a picture of my gold lowers for now. I will try to get it tomorrow.
If there is no plastic mesh installed in your gold lower, then if you look closely you won't find any difference between Black lower and Gold lower. Black and Gold lower used to differ only on that plastic mesh. There should be no micro bass hole along the gold and black lower circumference.

 

[rottoman]

I am a bit old school; don't use smartphone and so don't have anything handy to take a picture of my gold lowers for now. I will try to get it tomorrow.
If there is no plastic mesh installed in your gold lower, then if you look closely you won't find any difference between Black lower and Gold lower. Black and Gold lower used to differ only on that plastic mesh. There should be no micro bass hole along the gold and black lower circumference.

You are absolutely correct.
I see a white color mesh on the gold lower.
But this doesn't exist in the black lower.
What is this micro base hole ?
Which other lowers have a mesh ?

 

[bk123]

You are absolutely correct.
I see a white color mesh on the gold lower.
But this doesn't exist in the black lower.
What is this micro base hole ?
Which other lowers have a mesh ?

This white color mesh is only with the gold lower. If you look at the circumference of the bottom of the lower filters using some loupe or using some lens, you will notice an extremely tiny hole except on Gold and Black filter. The idea is larger the hole in size, lesser is the Bass in quantity. No hole means maximum bass.

 

[rottoman]

This white color mesh is only with the gold lower. If you look at the circumference of the bottom of the lower filters using some loupe or using some lens, you will notice an extremely tiny hole except on Gold and Black filter. The idea is larger the hole in size, lesser is the Bass in quantity. No hole means maximum bass.

Thank you very much for this. It's very strange that only Gold has this mesh.
It's also slightly strange that you don't have a smart phone

 

[rottoman]

This white color mesh is only with the gold lower. If you look at the circumference of the bottom of the lower filters using some loupe or using some lens, you will notice an extremely tiny hole except on Gold and Black filter. The idea is larger the hole in size, lesser is the Bass in quantity. No hole means maximum bass.

I have checked thoroughly.
Avalon = white mesh
Seraph = white mesh
Enigma+ = no white mesh.
Maybe enigma filters are different ?

 

[bk123]

I have checked thoroughly.
Avalon = white mesh
Seraph = white mesh
Enigma+ = no white mesh.
Maybe enigma filters are different ?

I think white mesh is missing in all the new batch becasue the gold lower in my Nale does not have any white mesh too. There is no logic of gold without the white mesh. In back old days of trinity audio each color one piece filter came in two variants: one with the white mesh and other without the mesh.

 

[fablestruck]

If any one wants to buy a Seraph or an Avalon. Send me a message.

I got them for lower prices and will pass it on for even lower.

Some one from this forum would appreciate them more.

Could you give us a note about Seraph/Enigma comparison since they have a similar driver configuration?

 

[bk123]

It's also slightly strange that you don't have a smart phone

Yes, just like you most of my known find it odd . I never felt the need of a smartphone; just a happy person with the old non-intrusive simple keypad phone. Never been to any popular social media platform like Facebook, insta or twitter Except this beautiful head-fi and one fountainpennetwork forum. I am a fountain pen junkie...........

 

[rottoman]

Could you give us a note about Seraph/Enigma comparison since they have a similar driver configuration?

I will have to do some more listening for this comparison.
Seraph is closer to the Enigma than Seraph is to Avalon.

Enigma is a very refined version of seraph with smoother and finer treble.
Enigma also has deeper and more bass .


I've had some treble issues with Seraph in the past like cymbals but now they sound better with soft ears tips. Even the bass quantity and quality are much better now in the Seraph.
But bass isn't super deep.

But the foundation sound of both iems seem very similar to me.
In a blind test I would be able to say they are from the same audio house.

But the v16 is completely different from the Enigma . I can clearly make out they are from different audio houses.

 

[fablestruck]

What's your source usually?

 

[rottoman]

What's your source usually?

Ibasso dx 320

 

[DrewVz]

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What's the best, cheapest, most flexy-nibbed stock fountain pen out there right now? Something that can lay down a clean 3-4mm line at full spread?