iFi Zen Stream: Setup, Tips, Tricks...
May 5, 2023 at 10:52 AM Post #976 of 1,569
I’m really looking forward for Airplay 2, but can’t setup it on ifi volumio OS. I guess it will be outdated on various packages that are tweakable via opensource
 
May 5, 2023 at 11:37 AM Post #977 of 1,569
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May 5, 2023 at 11:38 AM Post #978 of 1,569
Thanks, duly noted, I'll pass on your feedback. Thanks again!
Thank you for considering it. Another neat feature would be high quality DSP volume control much like Roon's with dithering (no loss of sound quality)- this means I can use a DAC directly with power amps or active speakers for ultimate sound quality.

But ultimate would be to allow Volumio plugin for convolution (i forgot what i was called now) so I can apply room/headphone correction directly on the IFI Stream - this would be amazing.

and next step... Dirac :)
 
May 5, 2023 at 4:23 PM Post #979 of 1,569
Thank you for considering it. Another neat feature would be high quality DSP volume control much like Roon's with dithering (no loss of sound quality)- this means I can use a DAC directly with power amps or active speakers for ultimate sound quality.

Although some of our fiters are in the digital domain, volume control any other than analog is a different story. I can't promise anything, but I'll ask, why not :)
 
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May 5, 2023 at 4:58 PM Post #980 of 1,569
Although some of our fiters are in the digital domain, volume control any other than analog is a different story. I can't promise anything, but I'll ask, why not :)
Oh yea i know - it's a bit unorthodox, but digital volume can for all intents and purposes as good as any analogue if not even better if done right with correct headroom/dithering: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...truth-about-dsp-volume-control-in-roon.23552/

I've used the Roon DSP volume and it's just amazing having a dac pump it's signal directly in active monitors with no intermediate analogue volume control in between. I also use Genelec DSP speakers which use this method, sounds great.

I know IFI are focused on analogue domain mostly, but you guys do fantastic reclocking and other stuff in digital domain, it's time to take it to the next level and do some great software too.. I was also asking a while back if possible to get DSP eq on the Gryphon. It's 2023, we have chatbots that are smarter than me, give us some sexy EQ/DSP please :wink: there's no hiding away from code anymore, the matrix is here haha
 
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May 5, 2023 at 5:01 PM Post #981 of 1,569
I know IFI are focused on analogue domain mostly, but you guys do fantastic reclocking and other stuff in digital domain, it's time to take it to the next level and do some great software too.. I was also asking a while back if possible to get DSP eq on the Gryphon. It's 2023, we have chatbots that are smarter than me, give us some sexy EQ/DSP please :wink: there's no running away from code haha

I hear you and at some point we may have our say as far as digital volume regulation goes. We never say never :wink:

As for EQ for xDSD Gryphon, we're askad about that every now and then, but I have no new info on the subject at this time. Thanks!
 
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May 9, 2023 at 2:56 PM Post #982 of 1,569
Tidal Connect cannot see my Zen Streamer. When I try "Connect" in my Tidal App on my Iphone, it just shows the TV sets and some Wifi Radios in my house. It shows me nothing about the Zen streamer or anything about ifi.

In the ifi video showing how to use Tidal with the Zen streamer, when something plays on tidal, the speaker icon is supposed to show up but I do not see that icon at all.
Tidal just plays right on my iPhone or on my (Windows)computer directly through Tidal itself (by the Tidal app on my PC or my iPhone).

Currently, I just use All-in-one mode with my external SSD drive. I use my iPhone as the remote (via the iFi app). I am using the Wifi connection. (My router is in another part of my house so I cannot use an ethernet cable connection.) This always works fine and sounds great. [I use an ifi Power Elite, which really improves the sound.]

I tried mconnect and uPnp and even Jplay on my iPhone, and none of these can see the Zen streamer or anything related to ifi.

The ifi app on my iPhone is the only app I use with with the Zen Streamer.

I've scoured the internet for suggestions, but nothing has worked.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
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May 9, 2023 at 3:13 PM Post #983 of 1,569
Tidal Connect cannot see my Zen Streamer. When I try "Connect" in my Tidal App on my Iphone, it just shows the TV sets and some Wifi Radios in my house. It shows me nothing about the Zen streamer or anything about ifi.

In the ifi video showing how to use Tidal with the Zen streamer, when something plays on tidal, the speaker icon is supposed to show up but I do not see that icon at all.
Tidal just plays right on my iPhone or on my (Windows)computer directly through Tidal itself (by the Tidal app on my PC or my iPhone).

Currently, I just use All-in-one mode with my external SSD drive. I use my iPhone as the remote (via the iFi app). I am using the Wifi connection. (My router is in another part of my house so I cannot use an ethernet cable connection.) This always works fine and sounds great. [I use an ifi Power Elite, which really improves the sound.]

I tried mconnect and uPnp and even Jplay on my iPhone, and none of these can see the Zen streamer or anything related to ifi.

The ifi app on my iPhone is the only app I use with with the Zen Streamer.

I've scoured the internet for suggestions, but nothing has worked.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
If you're sure you are connected to the same network as the Zen stream, and have been using the Stream-iFi app in that way and not Hot-spot, then I am not sure what could be wrong.

If you make sure your phone is connected to the same network as the Zen, and you still don't see it (Tidal connect) then somehow you are not connected to the same network.

Make sure Tidal connect option is not disabled in the Zen stream playback options menu as well, and let us know.

Cheers!!

EDIT: Also, I think on Tidal you have to start playback then the speaker icon should show up, I will check my iPhone as soon as I can
 
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May 9, 2023 at 7:13 PM Post #985 of 1,569
OK, thanks for the help. Got it working. On the iphone, I needed to click on the playbar to see the speaker icon. Thanks so much for the quick response which worked.
Best to you.
You're welcome, enjoy!

Cheers!!
 
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May 10, 2023 at 2:20 PM Post #987 of 1,569
Qobuz has always been my personal favorite in terms of Lossless streaming services go.

Tidal is fairly good as well, but in my opinion, one must use MQA gear all the way thru the chain to get all unfolds.

Spotify although not lossless I always felt sounded very good thru the Zen Stream, and also thru the NEO, before that I would always listen to Spotify thru a DDC, with the Zen I didn't feel that was needed.

Cheers!!
 
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May 14, 2023 at 6:27 AM Post #988 of 1,569
Hi, I'm using the mconnect player app with Qobuz and in the settings there is the "Gapless to Renderer" option. I see this warning: "Please turn off if your device does not support Gapless over UPnP. Some renderers may show abnormal behavior with Gapless on". Does anyone know if the Zen Stream supports this?
 
May 14, 2023 at 8:36 AM Post #989 of 1,569
Hi, I'm using the mconnect player app with Qobuz and in the settings there is the "Gapless to Renderer" option. I see this warning: "Please turn off if your device does not support Gapless over UPnP. Some renderers may show abnormal behavior with Gapless on". Does anyone know if the Zen Stream supports this?
I have used it in both ways, when I used MConnect, the best is to just set it to where the Gapless works for you and leave it, lol

Different systems and dacs have had different reactions to it, I will always use a Live album or Pink Floyd to test how the gapless setting responds to any gear, then set it and forget it.

Hope that helps...

Cheers!!
 
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May 14, 2023 at 10:19 AM Post #990 of 1,569
I have used it in both ways, when I used MConnect, the best is to just set it to where the Gapless works for you and leave it, lol

Different systems and dacs have had different reactions to it, I will always use a Live album or Pink Floyd to test how the gapless setting responds to any gear, then set it and forget it.

Hope that helps...

Cheers!!

Thanks, I'll do some tests.
 

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