iFi audio ZEN Blue - The Official Thread
Oct 15, 2019 at 3:29 PM Post #31 of 493
I was hoping my Samsung S8 had APTX HD.. so it would be nice to hear if it improves the sound. So far i am very happy with the sound Blue tooth presentation. When you forget its not USB thats not a bad thing. I am feeding nearly £3000 worth of HF AMP DAC with £120 of Zen Blue. Its really great for the price. If the Zen amp Dac if as high quality some people will get a bargin. Roll on the reviews...
 
Oct 15, 2019 at 6:50 PM Post #33 of 493
I was hoping my Samsung S8 had APTX HD.. so it would be nice to hear if it improves the sound. So far i am very happy with the sound Blue tooth presentation. When you forget its not USB thats not a bad thing. I am feeding nearly £3000 worth of HF AMP DAC with £120 of Zen Blue. Its really great for the price. If the Zen amp Dac if as high quality some people will get a bargin. Roll on the reviews...
I believe the s8 is capable of LDAC transmition via bluetooth
 
Oct 16, 2019 at 4:14 PM Post #35 of 493
Can be already bought, but our official announcement will follow shortly!


Sorry for the Off Topic, but I need to ask... I recently bought the iFi Zen DAC but I can't seem to set the bit to 24bit, The only option I have was 32bit 44- 384 Hz
 
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Oct 16, 2019 at 4:16 PM Post #36 of 493
Sorry for the Off Topic, but I need to ask... I recently bought the iFi Zen DAC but I can't seem to have the Option to set it to 24Bit, Only option I have was 32bit 44- 384 Hz

What's coming from your machine is 24Bit?
 
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Oct 16, 2019 at 4:38 PM Post #37 of 493
What's coming from your machine is 24Bit?

My Music Libary are mostly 16 / 24bit Nothing in 32bit. I thought there would be an option to set things to 16bit / 24bit? Not sure what iFi DFU does.

I'm not familiar with Desktop setups.

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Oct 18, 2019 at 6:30 PM Post #38 of 493
My Music Libary are mostly 16 / 24bit Nothing in 32bit. I thought there would be an option to set things to 16bit / 24bit? Not sure what iFi DFU does.

We'll ask at our HQ and will let you know as soon as we have a reply.

Also, folks, the official launch note was just released, it's to be found in the first post of this thread. Enjoy!
 
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Oct 21, 2019 at 6:39 PM Post #39 of 493
It’s Bluetooth, but not as you know it.

Bluetooth functionality in a device is one thing, but actually making is sound really great is another.

Did you know..?

The first consumer Bluetooth device was invented in 1994 by Dr. Jaap Haartsen at Ericson. It was launched in 1999. As we all know, Bluetooth was originally intended for wireless voice calls. It was not intended for high quality music streaming.

It was named after Harald Blåtand Gormsen, who was the Viking King of Denmark between 958 and 970. Bluetooth is the Anglicised version of Blåtand. He was known for ‘uniting’ Scandinavia. Bluetooth was intended to ‘unite’ the PC and mobile phone industries.

The Bluetooth logo is not the clever etchings of a 1990’s PR agency / focus group – it’s actually the initials of Harald Bluetooth written in Scandanavian runes.

iFi is proud to be able to say that the ZEN Blue is the world’s first Bluetooth receiver supporting all the latest hi-res codecs for the best-quality music streaming from smartphones, tablets, PCs and Macs to any audio system.

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We’re sure Harald would be proud too.

The iFi Bluetooth implementation

So, Bluetooth is now everywhere and we take it for granted. But what we don’t have to take for granted is that audio transmitted via Bluetooth doesn’t always sound that great.

At iFi, we never settle for second best , so when we decided to incorporate Bluetooth into our products, we took a long hard look at it and thought, let’s make it the best Bluetooth we can. Here, we tell you how.

There is one tried and tested way to add Bluetooth to you device – we call it the ‘cookie cutter route’.

Grab yourself an SOC module – system on a chip – ; and implement according to the datasheet and you are done. Like this:

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SBC stand for Standard Bluetooth Codec. You simply run it through the SOC and there you have it. Job done. And, while this is adequate for a lot of products, we feel that audio deserves better, so we made a few tweaks with our implementation.

We developed a ground-up solution where the SOC in the xCAN is used only for reception (ie: no conversion/amplification).

We use the newest Qualcomm QCC5100 chip in conjunction with the very latest version of Bluetooth – Bluetooth5.0. The QCC5100 is a DAC chip and could be used for the digital to analogue conversion BUT we use it for data processing only. It includes aptX and AAC codecs for best audio quality from Apple devices (AAC) and Android devices, laptops etc. (aptX). It will also enable our devices to process LDAC and HWA, Sony and Huawei’s answer to hi-res Bluetooth respectively as well as Qualcomm’s aptX Adaptive codec.

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The digital-to-analogue conversion is performed by the ESS Sabre Hyperstream DAC chip. The signal from SOC has a huge amount of jitter. The ESS Sabre chip has Domain Jitter Eliminator Elimination and a discrete oscillator so this eliminates jitter and for the conversion to analogue. Once the conversion is complete, it is then sent to the amplifier.

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We use our own custom-designed op-amp, as found in our higher priced DACs such as the micro iDSD Black Label. And the Qualcomm and sabre align perfectly with our own GMT femto-precision clocking system to bring you an amazing performance from Bluetooth that is a positive surprise.
 
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Oct 23, 2019 at 9:19 AM Post #42 of 493
I was hoping my Samsung S8 had APTX HD.. so it would be nice to hear if it improves the sound. So far i am very happy with the sound Blue tooth presentation. When you forget its not USB thats not a bad thing. I am feeding nearly £3000 worth of HF AMP DAC with £120 of Zen Blue. Its really great for the price. If the Zen amp Dac if as high quality some people will get a bargin. Roll on the reviews...

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Glad you like it. Units are out there...as you say, roll on the reviews.
 
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Oct 24, 2019 at 6:16 AM Post #43 of 493
Just got my iFi Zen Dac in this morning. I have to say, there was an unexpected heft to the device which I really liked. I tested a couple of tracks out of my 2019 MacBook Air with some 16/44 files and with a V-Moda M100 which is a headphone I know very well. Immediately there was a grander soundstage and vocals sounded more present which fixes that one issue with the M100, where the treble felt not as prominent or crisp as the other frequencies. Very happy with that, a good pairing it seems.

Truebass definitely works a treat. Was listening to Teardrop by Massive Attack and the M100 is famous for it's bass qualities but with Truebass on it made it even more impactful, the kind of bass that you can feel and rattles you a bit but still controlled. Not something I'd use but can imagine it being very useful with bass light earphones/headphones.

Waiting for a balanced cable to arrive to test other earphones. It is a very made device and totally worth the asking price. Only complaint is the front Truebass and Power Match buttons don't feel as sturdy compared to the rest of the unit, there's a loose feeling to them but it's not a deal breaker. There's no power supply in the box as well, which is not a huge issue as I think I have one lying around somewhere. Any sound benefits to powering them from the mains?
 
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Oct 25, 2019 at 10:26 AM Post #44 of 493
Early Zen Dac user implied external power supply no notable improvement vs USB power. Typical reply says depends on quality of other components in chain. Spending more means getting more of something tempting to audiophile senses.
 
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