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Jun 22, 2018 at 10:46 AM Post #2,281 of 3,080
Hi Dhruvmeena96,

I have the ouart silver copper cable & used it with the IT 01.
In my highly personal & subjective humble opinion, the high frequency becomes a little 'shrill' & as I am sensitive to high frequency, this isn't really enjoyable for me as I have quite a few tracks which hit the high frequency spec quite well.
Subjectively & personally, a good way to get 'reference' or close to 'reference' tuning would be by using Penon OS 849 (More expansion, depth & clarity) or Penon GS 849 (Same expansion, depth & clarity as OS but with tone control)
As the IT 01 is my daily, I use it with the GS 849 as I like this match up the most.

Otherwise, iBasso's own CB 12 & CB 13 give similar 'reference sound' to the Penon GS 849 but also a little more clarity on top especially CB 13.

Just my humble subjective opinion.
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 12:47 PM Post #2,282 of 3,080
Thanks
Hi Dhruvmeena96,

I have the ouart silver copper cable & used it with the IT 01.
In my highly personal & subjective humble opinion, the high frequency becomes a little 'shrill' & as I am sensitive to high frequency, this isn't really enjoyable for me as I have quite a few tracks which hit the high frequency spec quite well.
Subjectively & personally, a good way to get 'reference' or close to 'reference' tuning would be by using Penon OS 849 (More expansion, depth & clarity) or Penon GS 849 (Same expansion, depth & clarity as OS but with tone control)
As the IT 01 is my daily, I use it with the GS 849 as I like this match up the most.

Otherwise, iBasso's own CB 12 & CB 13 give similar 'reference sound' to the Penon GS 849 but also a little more clarity on top especially CB 13.

Just my humble subjective opinion.
Low impedance effect the presentation of treble..

Well it can be that the treble can get shrilly...

So you say penom GS is better for you...

OK..

I want a cable that can make it sound as big as it can get...
Maximum level soundstage but the cable has to be cheap, not like the plusssounds or effect audio

Because now I am thinking of mod, so I want the iem to perform at max on default tuning so that I can get my tuning set right.

I am thinking of getting the Final audio type of magical sound. The so called black background. Instrument comes and then gets into black background when not needed(tight natural decay presentation)

I have researched a lot..and got to know that Final, alpha and delta, blueverblue iem produce the huge stage by converting the back pressure and sound into heat energy by usage of thin open cell foam...

If I can incorporate that with iBasso it01, let's see
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 1:20 PM Post #2,283 of 3,080
@CoiL why don't you try ourart silver copper cable with iBasso it01
Impedance is below 0.1ohm
That is some crazy impedance rating...
Well it costs 65$
I will check this cable out and then tell you my experience
Well, first of all I really don`t think -0.1 Ohm impedance down from my re-terminated stock cable will make any difference.
But, if it would, then I wouldn`t want it as I think my modded IT01 highs range is 100% spot-on for my ears & with my gear.
And... to pay extra 65$ for another cable seem ridiculous to me. Just re-terminate jack (even better if MMCX jacks too) and call it done, much cheaper.
65$ I would save up for buying another IT01 and mod it again! ;P

Btw, imho changing cable wont affect IT01 soundstage (if anything, then just highs amount/details by a tad).
If You wish to get "bigger" sound from IT01, first thing to do - remove nozzle grills. Further improvement comes from driver/shell back modding + ultra-wide bore tips - can`t get more out of it.
 
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Jun 22, 2018 at 1:27 PM Post #2,284 of 3,080
Well, first of all I really don`t think -0.1 Ohm impedance down from my re-terminated stock cable will make any difference.
But, if it would, then I wouldn`t want it as I think my modded IT01 highs range is 100% spot-on for my ears & with my gear.
And... to pay extra 65$ for another cable seem ridiculous to me. Just re-terminate jack (even better if MMCX jacks too) and call it done, much cheaper.
65$ I would save up for buying another IT01 and mod it again! ;P
LoL....well paying 65$ for 0.1 ohm reduction and cable seems funny...

But I hearing something pretty good about penon and ourart cable..

Especially penon cable....as they seems to outperform effect Horus and plusssound x8 copper in sound quality..

Dunno how cable made sense to FR, but penon mailed me and told that their cable is making FR differences to most of the IEM(they will send me comparison data)

Let's see...I am hearing extremely good about the GS849 cable(actually too good)

@twister6
@audio123 can give differences between OS, GS and CS

I still don't believe in cable except for the one I made for my friend with extreme budget

Mundorf Silver Gold 22AWG 8braid with Mundorf silver fold solder....

That was one cable which actually did made the sound too different than the stock one.... That was a bliss but was not able to click photo because I had Nokia button phone and now he is Canada....

Well he is coming soon, so I will click photo now and show you on PM
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 1:28 PM Post #2,285 of 3,080
Hi Dhruvmeena96,

I have the ouart silver copper cable & used it with the IT 01.
In my highly personal & subjective humble opinion, the high frequency becomes a little 'shrill' & as I am sensitive to high frequency, this isn't really enjoyable for me as I have quite a few tracks which hit the high frequency spec quite well.
Subjectively & personally, a good way to get 'reference' or close to 'reference' tuning would be by using Penon OS 849 (More expansion, depth & clarity) or Penon GS 849 (Same expansion, depth & clarity as OS but with tone control)
As the IT 01 is my daily, I use it with the GS 849 as I like this match up the most.

Otherwise, iBasso's own CB 12 & CB 13 give similar 'reference sound' to the Penon GS 849 but also a little more clarity on top especially CB 13.

Just my humble subjective opinion.
Can you explain the meaning of Tone control....

LoL, I really did not get by meaning of tone control.
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 1:06 AM Post #2,286 of 3,080
Although I believe the IBasso IT01 is the greatest value IEM in terms of SQ at $99...

This is probably worst MMCX I’ve ever tried to remove. Advice for anyone who wants to try to remove it: don’t. Might ruin the heat shrink and connector shield. I can’t believe how tight it is.

Hint to iBasso: people want to remove their cable. Don’t cheap out.
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 1:39 AM Post #2,287 of 3,080
Can you explain the meaning of Tone control....

LoL, I really did not get by meaning of tone control.

Hi Dhruvmeena96,

As mentioned already by Coil in terms of modding the IT 01, the sound is already quite spacious.

I will say again, Penon's OS 849, at least subjectively to my ears has that 'perception' of 'increased vocal clarity & spaciousness'.

But Penon GS 849 also has these same traits to a certain extent but also at least to my ears subjectively, smoother overall sound at an average '1 db lower perception' (despite volume matched from source for consistency)
So to me, at any rate, it sounds much nicer overall & without being corny, feels like my ears are being massaged by a smoother than stock cable sound while the distinctive sound signature is still very much evident.

What I mean by tone control is IT 01 is essentially still very energetic sounding without being faitiguing (not that it was faitiguing before for me), just means especially if the source itself may have lots of energy in it's sound, it doesn't feel like you're slamming your head against a wall constantly to use a blunt analogy.
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 2:04 AM Post #2,288 of 3,080
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Hi Dhruvmeena96,

As mentioned already by Coil in terms of modding the IT 01, the sound is already quite spacious.

I will say again, Penon's OS 849, at least subjectively to my ears has that 'perception' of 'increased vocal clarity & spaciousness'.

But Penon GS 849 also has these same traits to a certain extent but also at least to my ears subjectively, smoother overall sound at an average '1 db lower perception' (despite volume matched from source for consistency)
So to me, at any rate, it sounds much nicer overall & without being corny, feels like my ears are being massaged by a smoother than stock cable sound while the distinctive sound signature is still very much evident.

What I mean by tone control is IT 01 is essentially still very energetic sounding without being faitiguing (not that it was faitiguing before for me), just means especially if the source itself may have lots of energy in it's sound, it doesn't feel like you're slamming your head against a wall constantly to use a blunt analogy.
So you mean to say something euphoric sounding...
The cable actually shelved the distortion chart to produce a smoother distortion overall, making it less fatiguing and a bit more clean. I think silver wire will be doing that thing a little better as gold is worse conductor even compared to copper in overall performance. Gold actually make things resisted linearly, which I like, making it more of a laid back presentation compared to other metals..

Thanks bro
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 4:17 AM Post #2,289 of 3,080
Cool
So you mean to say something euphoric sounding...
The cable actually shelved the distortion chart to produce a smoother distortion overall, making it less fatiguing and a bit more clean. I think silver wire will be doing that thing a little better as gold is worse conductor even compared to copper in overall performance. Gold actually make things resisted linearly, which I like, making it more of a laid back presentation compared to other metals..

Thanks bro

Hi Dhruvmeena96,

No problem, as this is a subjective & personal opinion, essentially it comes to how sound makes you feel, so if you want to go that far, I suppose that's a valid statement.
As stated, here & a few other threads, most often people forget what is most important...is how that sound (not just music) makes a listener feel as we all hear & feel it differently.
This is why it's important not to get too caught up in technical specs & frequency measurements, etc.

As a partial aside, short of platinum, gold is still a valid conductor for electrical current though given its 'value' & physical properties, where cables & the like concerned, it makes more sense as plating or coating so if that's what you hear, that's what you hear.

Hope you have a fun journey exploring cable rolling...
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 4:29 AM Post #2,290 of 3,080
Hi Dhruvmeena96,

No problem, as this is a subjective & personal opinion, essentially it comes to how sound makes you feel, so if you want to go that far, I suppose that's a valid statement.
As stated, here & a few other threads, most often people forget what is most important...is how that sound (not just music) makes a listener feel as we all hear & feel it differently.
This is why it's important not to get too caught up in technical specs & frequency measurements, etc.

As a partial aside, short of platinum, gold is still a valid conductor for electrical current though given its 'value' & physical properties, where cables & the like concerned, it makes more sense as plating or coating so if that's what you hear, that's what you hear.

Hope you have a fun journey exploring cable rolling...
I am a more of a objective guy rather than a subjective guy

Only very few cables were able to impress me

Effect audio Horus(due to roll off perfectly smooth highs because of ferrite bead acting as inductance to filter rmf etc)

Plussound x8 pure silver..(blind tested, with o2 amp, it somewhat cleaned the decay, faster driver)

VE clan junkosha 8braid silver(blind tested and ve clan send me the objective resukt between a normal crappy wire and their assembled wire, cheapest and very clean)

So do you think penon cable will effect my listening experience.

They don't have any objective data shown on website, so I am bit skeptical and hesitant buying them. Well reviewers are comparing them to uber cables and saying them good is something I can take as a positive impression..

And I am not a snake oil fanatic, so I am still asking, are they actually changing the sound into something spacious and clear...
 
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Jun 23, 2018 at 5:01 AM Post #2,291 of 3,080
I am a more of a objective guy rather than a subjective guy

Only very few cables were able to impress me

Effect audio Horus(due to roll off perfectly smooth highs because of ferrite bead acting as inductance to filter rmf etc)

Plussound x8 pure silver..(blind tested, with o2 amp, it somewhat cleaned the decay, faster driver)

VE clan junkosha 8braid silver(cheapest and very clean)

So do you think penon cable will effect my listening experience

Hi Dhruvmeena96,

As I haven't listened to the cables you mentioned though they are on my list more out of curiosity than anything else, I can't say how they compare to Penon's cables.
Your experience may vary greatly or be similar.

While it would be interesting to find out, sadly I am not anywhere near where those cables would be an option for demo though given the VE Clan is the cheapest as you say...maybe one day...
See how it goes for myself.
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 6:09 AM Post #2,292 of 3,080
Hi Dhruvmeena96,

As I haven't listened to the cables you mentioned though they are on my list more out of curiosity than anything else, I can't say how they compare to Penon's cables.
Your experience may vary greatly or be similar.

While it would be interesting to find out, sadly I am not anywhere near where those cables would be an option for demo though given the VE Clan is the cheapest as you say...maybe one day...
See how it goes for myself.
ve Clan cables are dirt cheap

65usd for plain silver(not pure but still 4N)

85 for Litz

That's the maximum price

85$
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 8:12 AM Post #2,293 of 3,080
ve Clan cables are dirt cheap

65usd for plain silver(not pure but still 4N)

85 for Litz

That's the maximum price

85$

Looking into it but the potential problem with reasonably priced things, doesn't matter what it is, especially if they are good, tends to add up more than the one or two pricey things.

As the saying goes in the forums, apologies to your wallet...
 
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Jun 23, 2018 at 9:23 AM Post #2,294 of 3,080
Although I believe the IBasso IT01 is the greatest value IEM in terms of SQ at $99...

This is probably worst MMCX I’ve ever tried to remove. Advice for anyone who wants to try to remove it: don’t. Might ruin the heat shrink and connector shield. I can’t believe how tight it is.

Hint to iBasso: people want to remove their cable. Don’t cheap out.

Good to know...and good that I like the stock cable. I will only change it if it goes bad one day.
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 9:56 AM Post #2,295 of 3,080
Although I believe the IBasso IT01 is the greatest value IEM in terms of SQ at $99...

This is probably worst MMCX I’ve ever tried to remove. Advice for anyone who wants to try to remove it: don’t. Might ruin the heat shrink and connector shield. I can’t believe how tight it is.

Hint to iBasso: people want to remove their cable. Don’t cheap out.
For me the mmcx connectors come off very easy.. the trick is to get a little nail in like a wedge.. comes off like a parrots mouth!
 

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