[German Expat in Vietnam]

I think its quite obvious that for this moment there are no better tuned planar iems on the market than the Timeless. Lets see what brings near future, i would love to see more planar technology among other companies, like Campfire, Thie Audio, IBasso, Moondrop, Empire Ears etc. It definitely has a great potential but slightly limited to the most powerful portable devices.

I have try my Tender 1 at my MacBook. Absolutely terrible. I think even amp 11 has not enough power for them. I just send amp12 back for check and fix the problem. I think the bad rewies about Tender 1 is a result from not enough power supply. If you not give a planar enough power there not play very well.

 

[firesign]

I think its quite obvious that for this moment there are no better tuned planar iems on the market than the Timeless. Lets see what brings near future, i would love to see more planar technology among other companies, like Campfire, Thie Audio, IBasso, Moondrop, Empire Ears etc. It definitely has a great potential but slightly limited to the most powerful portable devices.

For me, the Shuoer S12 is almost as good as the Timeless. Even better for some friends.
With faster bass and brighter than the Timeless, but similar in all other aspects.

 

[samandhi]

I guess you don't listen to metal, right?
Because with many metal records, CCA CRA has some excruciating treble spike.

I do indeed. In fact, metal is the main genre I listen to (though certainly not the only one). Unless there is actual sibilance where there is actual hiss due to "S" or "SH" sounds (for instance) a bit of a treble spike doesn't bother me too much. The last pair of headphones I had that DID hurt my ears due to a treble spike was the HD700 with their 8K spike. Even then, it was more fatiguing than instant hurt.

Though I also don't find the CRA to have this murderous amount of treble either. I also no longer listen at levels that are reserved for stadium concerts, or jackhammers, or rock blasting either (if I did, I might hear this more readily I suppose).. It is in the presence region (roughly 3k) that absolutely murders my ears at almost any volume.

 

[firesign]

I do indeed. In fact, metal is the main genre I listen to (though certainly not the only one). Unless there is actual sibilance where there is actual hiss due to "S" or "SH" sounds (for instance) a bit of a treble spike doesn't bother me too much. The last pair of headphones I had that DID hurt my ears due to a treble spike was the HD700 with their 8K spike. Even then, it was more fatiguing than instant hurt.

Though I also don't find the CRA to have this murderous amount of treble either. I also no longer listen at levels that are reserved for stadium concerts, or jackhammers, or rock blasting either (if I did, I might hear this more readily I suppose).. It is in the presence region (roughly 3k) that absolutely murders my ears at almost any volume.

For me the CRA has a peak at a high frequency (definitely high treble, not high mids like 3kHz), which I find incredibly annoying. This has only happened to me with IE300, which I came to hate for this very reason.
For example, I have the Mest, whose highs are annoying to many people, and I love them.

I am using the CRA only for online meetings because of this reason

 

[Blotto80]

Who all has done the AMP12W mod? I've got a DX300 and an AMP12 on the way and I don't think I can justify the expense of sending it off for an EXN but the W looks fine for DIY (I'm somewhat capable with a soldering iron, I've replaced PCB mounted switches on mice and game controller). For those that have completed it what was your experience like while doing it and were you happy with the end result?

 

[German Expat in Vietnam]

The sound of 12w is excellent. I can recommend. Good job from. Whitigir for affordable price. Thanks @Whitigir

 

[RIGATIO]

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You can not put a price on sound quality. And we will not make you think you have to pay as much as possible for it.
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Enjoy the Ultimate!"

I can already hear the sounds of the locomotive of the hype train.

 

[Litlgi74]

EXN gets delivered today... Super psyched!

Thanks @Whitigir for understanding.

 

[Whitigir]

EXN gets delivered today... Super psyched!

Thanks @Whitigir for understanding.

You are welcome . Please do share your impression with all of us. I love reading them

 

[German Expat in Vietnam]

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You are welcome . Please do share your impression with all of us. I love reading them

Have you done the EXN Version? What's the difference between EX??

 

[14christ]

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Have you done the EXN Version? What's the difference between EX??

You took the words out of my proverbial mouth. I would assume it would be tuning?

 

[German Expat in Vietnam]

You took the words out of my proverbial mouth. I would assume it would be tuning?

I mean the difference about the sound quality

 

[German Expat in Vietnam]

Thats 2 difference tuning versions

I mean the difference about the sound quality

 

[Whitigir]

I have not replicated EXNP version .

 

[14christ]

I have not replicated EXNP version .

So mainly the difference between ex and exn would be hardware choice?