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Sep 25, 2020 at 6:56 AM Post #4,786 of 6,983
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Hi guys.. I know iBasso DX160 has a great parametric EQ & what not.. Out of curiosity, have any of you guys tried MSEB (HiBy's version of simplified PEQ, DSP etc) from HiBy app which you can download & install on your DAP for free? Actually this comes standard with every HiBy DAP.. I tried it over last few days & it's damn easy to use & very good.. Honestly I would say it can match iBasso PEQ or at least give it some challenge.. Go & try - it's free after all.. And share me your impression.. Thanks..
 
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Sep 26, 2020 at 3:41 AM Post #4,787 of 6,983
Just finished comparing the DX160 and Sony NW-ZX507

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Comparisons were done with mango mode on the DX160 and direct source mode on the ZX507. Both using 4.4mm output and normalised to the same loudness.

Starting off, tonality wise they are both neutral with a hint of warmth. Both have excellent detail retrieval I've come to expect from midrange or better daps.

Dynamics and tonality go to the DX160 with It presenting notes with more authority and power while fleshing out instruments in a more natural way. Almost like the ZX507 has a more forward presentation.

The largest difference between the two is the soundstage presentation. The soundstage of the DX160 in mango mode has a holographic quality that is present only in some upper midrange or better daps like the LPG, SP1000, SP1000M, M11 Pro and N6ii with E01 Module. The ZX507 doesn't come close to the DX160 in this aspect and sounds just mediocre in comparison.

Instrument separation and overall transparency of the soundscape compare similarly with the DX160 taking the win easily.

The ZX507 wins in bass control sounding a bit tighter and more controlled in the rumble.

In conclusion, I'd say its not worth the hype. Perhaps the people who were singing praises about the ZX507 have not heard newer daps in the midrange to upper midrange like the M11 Pro, Hiby R6 Pro or DX160 before.
 

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Sep 26, 2020 at 7:52 AM Post #4,788 of 6,983
Being quite underwhelmed by the ZX507's showing, I went to the ZX500 thread and they suggested several tweaks to make the ZX507 sound its best. I'll be making another trip to do another comparison so stay tuned.
 
Sep 27, 2020 at 5:14 AM Post #4,790 of 6,983
@Paul - iBasso
Could you please enable in the options automatic Power off setting (if the player is idle for some given time)?
This is because for unknown reason (probably hardware/soft issue) the DX160 consumes a lot of power when not used and offline (this is insane almost 20% in 24h)
I know not everyone wants to put Lurker's software on the DX160 but if one does and includes the Mango OS then there is a power off timer.
 
Sep 27, 2020 at 10:31 AM Post #4,791 of 6,983
Sep 29, 2020 at 4:22 AM Post #4,795 of 6,983
Ibasso DX160 (2020) vs Sony NW-ZX507 (V2)

To shake things up I decided to sit down, listen and get used to the sound of the ZX507 for an hour while doing all the optimisations suggested to me prior to doing a comparison. I also experimented with every sound setting to get the best sound possible on the ZX507.

I was also allowed to disable all apps and run all optimisations as detailed in https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-sony-nw-zx500.914486/page-299#post-15823504 as long as I did a factory reset after.

Comparisons were done with the DX160 in mango mode, High Gain with minimal phase fast roll off and the ZX507 with Direct sound Off, High-Res streaming mode On, DSEE-HX On, Battery Saving Off, low gain on the latest firmware at the time of writing.

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Some size comparisons
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Same thickness and length but the DX160 is about 20% wider. The Sony feels denser though as its only 14g lighter (178g vs 164g) despite the size difference. Both feel very good in the hand.

Starting with the bass the ZX507 still has an edge. While warmer, it's still tighter and better controlled with a real addictive quality to it.

Mids wise where the ZX507 is warmer and softer, the DX160 goes for a more detailed transparent and reference sound. They were more of a match with Direct sound On.

Comparing the highs was very interesting, I had to go back and forth to confirm what I was hearing. While the ZX507 was warmer and softer, the highs were somehow harsher. The DX160 was more effortless and refined. Better treble control on the DX160 perhaps. As a result detailing on the highs was superior on the DX160.

Soundstage wise the ZX507 is definitely wider than before albeit less transparent due to the tonality changes. Here I though the ZX507 would be on par with the DX160 this time around. But as I switched to the DX160 I realised the gulf was still there. Yes, the soundstage of the ZX507 is large in the traditional sense but the DX160 is in the class of holographic sounding daps. Soundstage is wider, deeper and has an all around transparency and clarity to it, ie holographic. Enough said.

Instrument separation and layering compare similarly but overall transparency has taken a step back compared to my v1 comparison due to the changes in tonality.

So how have my impressions changed? Not too much really.

The new firmware + optimisations resulted in a wider soundstage and a warmer and smoother sounding dap but transparency also suffered a bit.

I do get the appeal of the ZX507 however. As audiophile daps converge towards being more reference sounding, its good that Sony continues to make warmer sounding daps. Bonus points for being able to sound reference as well with Direct sound mode, albeit not to the same level as other daps in its price class.

Overall, if you're after a warm sounding DAP with lovely and addictive bass, get the ZX507. But if you're after a larger and more holographic soundstage and a more reference sounding dap as a whole, the DX160 will deliver what you're after and then some for half the price.
 
Sep 29, 2020 at 4:46 AM Post #4,796 of 6,983
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Sep 29, 2020 at 5:25 AM Post #4,797 of 6,983
Sep 30, 2020 at 6:54 AM Post #4,798 of 6,983
How about charging the DX160?

Do you only use the USB cable or a charger?

Normally I connect DX160 to my laptop, but yesterday I tried my old smartphone charger (QualComm quick charge 3.0) and I notice that it was display in lock screen "Charging rapidly".

Do you think that is safe to use this charger?
 
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Sep 30, 2020 at 7:31 AM Post #4,800 of 6,983
@rimsilva if the charger is original and not faulty, there shouldn't be any problem. The DX160 is compatible with QC. However, because it has quite a small battery I try to avoid QC and use a power bank or 2.4A charger instead

Thanks, It's a Aukey charger.

Well I used the same logic as my EV, no 100% fast charging, but it's true, slow charging is healthier :) I've only used to charge 30%.
 

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