bigshot
Headphoneus Supremus
Expectation bias has a sound too!
You're misunderstanding the context. No one is saying there aren't great headphones that have used different technologies and materials for their drivers. Bigshot was saying that newer driver materials, like the pure beryllium used in the Utopia, are snake oil and don't have any inherent sonic advantages. That is patently false. Beryllium has very unique properties like a very high stiffness to low mass ratio. It is also self damping. That's why the Utopia is considered one of the best, if not the best, at detail retrieval for a dynamic driver.I beg to differ. There are a lot of great examples of past generation drivers with great tuning such as the Focal Clear and the Aurorus Borealis. Or am I just misunderstanding something here?
Not cranky at all. Just sick and tired of your constant misinformation.He’s just cranky.
That is EXACTLY what I was saying. And I even repeated it! How can you read four or five of my simple sentences and totally not register what I’m saying? You’ve got a chip on your shoulder and it’s blinding you. You’re making no attempt to listen to what I actually say. You’re just looking for a fight and I’m not interested.No one is saying there aren't great headphones that have used different technologies and materials for their drivers.
You mean the part where you called beryllium snake oil?That is EXACTLY what I was saying. And I even repeated it! How can you read four or five of my simple sentences and totally not register what I’m saying? You’ve got a chip on your shoulder and it’s blinding you. You’re making no attempt to listen to what I actually say. You’re just looking for a fight and I’m not interested.
Completely agree.Okay. I guess I did misunderstand then. What I want to say is that sound is a subjective preference. Not everybody will enjoy what beryllium drivers are capable of offering without great tuning.
Either you have comprehension problems, or you don't even read what I write. Whatever. I get it. You just want to mad dog me. Woof! Woof!You mean the part where you called beryllium snake oil?
Either you have comprehension problems, or you don't even read what I write. Whatever. I get it. You just want to mad dog me. Woof! Woof!
Either you have comprehension problems, or you don't even read what I write. Whatever. I get it. You just want to mad dog me. Woof! Woof!
Yes it is. Beryllium is unique because it is one of the lightest metals (top 10) and also one of the stiffest metals( top 10) and yet still has a higher modulus of elasticity than steel. It is also self damping. Those properties allow for a low mass, highly rigid driver. That translates to the potential of a very fast transducer, with minimal distortion and modal breakup. That doesn't mean that will be achieved without proper implementation. And even in the Utopia, there are some ringing/resonances above 20khz. It's hard to say if that is due to the damping implemented by Focal or it is an inherent property of beryllium. But at least it happens in an inaudible part of the frequency range.Since @Hifiearspeakers doesn't seem to get mad, I’ve left the posts alone. But @bigshot, now would be a good time to stop the personal attacks. Those last posts don't make you look good.
About the topic, I know nothing about it so I didn't post until now. Something stiff and light that doesn't break too fast could make for a really good membrane. Is beryllium such a material? Again I don't have a clue, so I’ll just leave now.
Sorry Bigshot, but ignoring the differences in materials is short sighted - not sure how you can EQ driver stiffness/lightness into existence. Materials science is hugely impactful on modern headphone design. I think your preconceived biases are impacting your judgement.