Hugo TT 2 by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread

Jun 12, 2019 at 10:40 AM Post #5,776 of 19,849
I have not tried ifi silencer so no comment. Course you should try a quality server on your system like DX and compare.
 
Jun 13, 2019 at 6:43 AM Post #5,778 of 19,849
No plans for an Mscaler whazzup?
not unless 7 g falls from the skies.... well not just that. The server took the need to upgrade away , just that good. Plus space although that’s just an excuse to save 7 g. Cad.
 
Jun 13, 2019 at 2:05 PM Post #5,779 of 19,849
not unless 7 g falls from the skies.... well not just that. The server took the need to upgrade away , just that good. Plus space although that’s just an excuse to save 7 g. Cad.

I'm sure the server improved the sound quality quite significantly, and while I'm not sure any of us "need" a M-Scaler, I can't see how a server could take away the "need" for M-Scaler. The M-Scaler is a game changer IMHO - even with the TT. But I certainly understand budget constraints. I sold off all my analog gear just to be able to fund an HMS+TT2.
 
Jun 13, 2019 at 2:07 PM Post #5,780 of 19,849
Hey I’m sure it’s great, but I’m good.
 
Jun 14, 2019 at 9:58 AM Post #5,781 of 19,849
For Rob,

You explained how TT2 determines its current output dependent on OP voltage and load impedance. With high and low gain behaving the same until a max. output of 3V is reached for low gain. After this high gain behaves independently as it outputs voltage higher than 3V and the corresponding current. On the TT2 presentation slides it states extra current is available for low impedance loads. If the current is determined by OP voltage and load and this relationship is fixed how then does TT2 allocate this extra current for low impedance loads? Thankyou MK.
 
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Jun 14, 2019 at 1:56 PM Post #5,782 of 19,849
With an amplifier you have two limits - the amount of peak voltage output, and the peak current output. The voltage depends upon the OP stage and the PSU; the peak current OP depends upon the current limiting circuit and or the capability of the OP stage, and the PSU too. TT2 has on SPICE modelling the capability of outputting 10A; but it will only do this for short bursts, as the super caps will start to discharge... But to induce 10A you need to be using less than 1 ohm loads, something you would never have in reality. So basically TT2 will supply linear current to match any load you care to use - you will never in practice be able to draw down the peak current it is capable of.

I think it's important to stress that peak current is meaningless; what is more important is current linearity, that is distortion will not increase unduly with low impedance loads - and this will have a big SQ benefit, and TT2 does have this characteristic.
 
Jun 14, 2019 at 2:10 PM Post #5,783 of 19,849
My main headphone is 32 ohm impedance hence my question. I hope to make the purchase of a TT2 soon. Thanks for the feedback there.
 
Jun 16, 2019 at 1:04 PM Post #5,784 of 19,849
I just got my TT2. I have a question though about playback on a PC. What sound settings should I be used? For example, for default format, should I pick the highest (i.e., 2 channel, 24 bit, 192000hz)? Or should I be using a lower quality default format? Also, UI'm getting an M-Scaler next week, what setting should I be using to get the best sound? I"m running through optical now, as well (if that matters)
 
Jun 16, 2019 at 1:19 PM Post #5,785 of 19,849
I just got my TT2. I have a question though about playback on a PC. What sound settings should I be used? For example, for default format, should I pick the highest (i.e., 2 channel, 24 bit, 192000hz)? Or should I be using a lower quality default format? Also, UI'm getting an M-Scaler next week, what setting should I be using to get the best sound? I"m running through optical now, as well (if that matters)

Are you looking at the windows audio settings ? If so no need to set it, as the chord usb driver will have 100% control over the audio ( unless you are using optical from a soundcard ) and will stream the correct track format to your TT2.

If you are using optical out from your pc's soundcard, set it to 192khz 24bit, some soundcards will only do 96khz via optical cable, depending on your soundcard you may or may not be limited to 96khz via optical out. Creative limit their soundcards to 96khz via optical.

Basically,

USB - no need to change anything.

Optical - set for 96 or 192khz and 24bit.
 
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Jun 16, 2019 at 1:28 PM Post #5,786 of 19,849
Are you looking at the windows audio settings ? If so no need to set it, as the chord usb driver will have 100% control over the audio ( unless you are using optical from a soundcard ) and will stream the correct track format to your TT2.

If you are using optical out from your pc's soundcard, set it to 192khz 24bit, some soundcards will only do 96khz via optical cable, depending on your soundcard you may or may not be limited to 96khz via optical out. Creative limit their soundcards to 96khz via optical.

Basically,

USB - no need to change anything.

Optical - set for 96 or 192khz and 24bit.
Thanks for your help. Yes, I'm talking about the windows settings. When I'm going through optical, and I'm at 192k, the Hugo TT2 color on top stays blue, regardless if I am playing 16/44 or 24/192. When I'm going through USB, the songs don't change the colors on the top of my Hugo TT2. For example, if I have it as default for USB connection, the color always stays orange, despite the fact that I'm playing track at different quality levels. So, I'm not really sure what is going on

Oh yeah, I'm going through Tidal HiFi
 
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Jun 16, 2019 at 1:36 PM Post #5,787 of 19,849
In windows settings for the chord audio output, set it to it's max of 384khz 32bit.

Windows will only use that in shared mode, but Chord's usb driver is best used in exclusive mode, media players like jriver and roon will use exclusive mode and will disregard what the windows settings are at. If you want you can set it to 44.1khz 16bit.

If you are using a soundcard with optical out, if you set your soundcard to output 192khz, thats the signal that TT2 will be receiving. I only use optical when I connected to my mscaler, but I prefer the USB connection.

If TT2 is not changing sample rates when using usb, set windows to 44.1khz 16bit. I use DBNC and TT2's windows is always blue for me. And I cant really remember how I had it setup for single bnc connections.

This is the chord audio output settings that I have on my nuc.


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Try 44.1khz and 16bit, files with higher sample rates should then change colour, if using usb.
 
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Jun 16, 2019 at 1:47 PM Post #5,788 of 19,849
In windows settings for the chord audio output, set it to it's max of 384khz 32bit.

Windows will only use that in shared mode, but Chord's usb driver is best used in exclusive mode, media players like jriver and roon will use exclusive mode and will disregard what the windows settings are at. If you want you can set it to 44.1khz 16bit.

If you are using a soundcard with optical out, if you set your soundcard to output 192khz, thats the signal that TT2 will be receiving. I only use optical when I connected to my mscaler, but I prefer the USB connection.

This is the chord audio output settings that I have on my nuc.






I see my problem now. I had not installed the windows a-sync driver. I have it installed now, and it is working correctly. I was able to put everything the same way as you have outlined here. Thanks...I appreciate it!
 
Jun 16, 2019 at 1:51 PM Post #5,789 of 19,849
I don't know how optical works on soundcards but with my motherboard I select realtek optical ASIO from the playback options in jriver and that feeds a bitperfect signal that automatic adjusts to the file played 44.1/96/192 etc just like USB async driver does. Another way to see if you are properly bypassing windows audio is to adjust the volume in the player software and it should make no difference between 0-100% as volume control should be done on your dac.
 
Jun 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM Post #5,790 of 19,849
Actually nevermind, it's still not changing colors with different songs of different quality. :(
 

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