Hugo TT 2 by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread

[Christer]

DSD over Toslink is just a game changer, the sound is fabulous. Rob certainly was right about Toslink

Hmm, please do not take this personally,it is not intended as an attack on you or anyone else who likes DSD. I have quite a few DSD masterfiles in my collection myself, but I still feel the need to ask, if you are also aware of what Rob actually thinks of DSD?
A "fundamentally flawed format" according to Rob if my memory serves me right and it normally does.
Rob has not exactly made it a secret that he strongly prefers PCM over DSD.
Unless I have misunderstood how his dacs work, DSD is internally converted to PCM and then output as DSD?
My understanding of why his dacs also playback DSD files being more of a courtesy to customers needs, or for marketing reasons but not for any SQ benefits? Please correct me if I am wrong.
Cheers CC

 

[GuiltyRocker]

Hmm, please do not take this personally,it is not intended as an attack on you or anyone else who likes DSD. I have quite a few DSD masterfiles in my collection myself, but I still feel the need to ask, if you are also aware of what Rob actually thinks of DSD?
A "fundamentally flawed format" according to Rob if my memory serves me right and it normally does.
Rob has not exactly made it a secret that he strongly prefers PCM over DSD.
Unless I have misunderstood how his dacs work, DSD is internally converted to PCM and then output as DSD?
My understanding of why his dacs also playback DSD files being more of a courtesy to customers needs, or for marketing reasons but not for any SQ benefits? Please correct me if I am wrong.
Cheers CC

You're definitely right that he doesn't like DSD, I love his DACs but I disagree with him there, I love DSD. While his DACs do convert to PCM internally in order to use sinc function, whatever he's doing is working. The sound is warm, very detailed without harshness, I can perceive the starting and stopping of notes, the tonality and timbre are very natural and the depth is fantastic. So while I love Rob's work, I completely disagree with him on DSD, to me it sounds amazing.

 

[LiamBurns]

Dang, TT 2 lookin' serious that spec sheet goes hard. Rob Watts really out here doing wizard stuff lol.

 

[Reactcore]

Hmm, please do not take this personally,it is not intended as an attack on you or anyone else who likes DSD. I have quite a few DSD masterfiles in my collection myself, but I still feel the need to ask, if you are also aware of what Rob actually thinks of DSD?
A "fundamentally flawed format" according to Rob if my memory serves me right and it normally does.
Rob has not exactly made it a secret that he strongly prefers PCM over DSD.
Unless I have misunderstood how his dacs work, DSD is internally converted to PCM and then output as DSD?
My understanding of why his dacs also playback DSD files being more of a courtesy to customers needs, or for marketing reasons but not for any SQ benefits? Please correct me if I am wrong.
Cheers CC

Thats what i also remember him saying.
His WTA code is built for PCM processing. And he cant totally overcome the drawbacks of DSD in a transient reconstruction pov.

I also have quite some albums in both DSD and PCM. DSD always sounds the softer of the two formats while PCM breathes more with a clearer and deeper stage. Warm and bright instruments keep their distinctive tones. On my battery fed dual optic setup its very easy to hear these differences.

But it doesnt mean i dont like DSD, specially with (too)bright/dry recorded modern music it can sound really smooth.

 

[GuiltyRocker]

Thats what i also remember him saying.
His WTA code is built for PCM processing. And he cant totally overcome the drawbacks of DSD in a transient reconstruction pov.

I also have quite some albums in both DSD and PCM. DSD always sounds the softer of the two formats while PCM breathes more with a clearer and deeper stage. Warm and bright instruments keep their distinctive tones. On my battery fed dual optic setup its very easy to hear these differences.

But it doesnt mean i dont like DSD, specially with (too)bright/dry recorded modern music it can sound really smooth.

I enjoy both formats, but there is something about DSD that I really enjoy. It is what it is.

 

[Reactcore]

I enjoy both formats, but there is something about DSD that I really enjoy. It is what it is.

As you should im just posting my personal impressions. I'm not saying what others should or shouldnt do.

Just enjoy the music