Hugo M Scaler by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:11 AM Post #8,626 of 18,516
Got it, Yeah really wish I could turn them off but oh well..same as my old Hugo 2 I just listen and forget about them. As it should be for the price, that amp is mind blowing. It’s my 3rd and final upgrade after starting with a WA7 in 2015. I have zero intentions of listening to the TT2/HMS stack by itself any time soon. You’ll see what I mean when you hear acoustic instruments through glowing hot tubes for the first time. Solid state life might go right out the window :wink:

I've been looking at valve amps all week, argh I want alot of things, Dave being the main one, then I would like a good non chinese tube amp. As I love things that look like they belong to the 1950s, an English Electric Lightning for example.

Hopefully one day I will hear a dave and a decent tube amp.
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 2:16 AM Post #8,627 of 18,516
I've been looking at valve amps all week, argh I want alot of things, Dave being the main one, then I would like a good non chinese tube amp. As I love things that look like they belong to the 1950s, an English Electric Lightning for example.

Hopefully one day I will hear a dave and a decent tube amp.

I had a Dave. Ran it through my old Woo WA22 tube amp complete with all the spendy 1950s and 1960s NOS tubes. Honestly, for live recordings it sounded superb. The cliche Dave atmospheric “you are there” feeling was in full effect but with added three dimensionality and warmth from the tubes. Delish. However, for studio recordings with a lot of weight and impact which is primarily what I listen to, even with the tubes Dave was too thin and technical sounding. I tried for weeks to like it but it just lacked soul plain and simple. Now M Scaled Dave is a different story. HMS brings the soul back mixed with those Dave atmospherics. It’s unbelievable. Put all that through a tip top valve amp and it’s game over. We’ll get there :)
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 6:12 AM Post #8,628 of 18,516
did you not say you were now using the tt2 in place of the dave as it was more fleshy and organic? you've lost me here.

with respect to the ferrites can someone reassure me that these cost effective tweaks don't go against what Rob said concerning how adding ferrites decreases SQ with HMS as it already has internal mini ferrites?

the lightning was the only Britsh built and designed fighter jet to go over mach 2.

Amber have a look at the earmax pro tube amp. Real German quality for 500. i use to have one. here's a link. http://theac.co.uk/earmax.html
 
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Oct 11, 2019 at 9:37 AM Post #8,629 of 18,516
Congrats for becoming officially "Roon Tested"!
HMS has already worked well with Roon, but it's nice to see an official acknowledgement.:smile_phones:


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Oct 11, 2019 at 10:03 AM Post #8,630 of 18,516
with respect to the ferrites can someone reassure me that these cost effective tweaks don't go against what Rob said concerning how adding ferrites decreases SQ with HMS as it already has internal mini ferrites?
All I`ve heard from ferrites was perfectly in line with Rob`s explanations of RF noise effect, so it should not be degrading anything.

Just go and try it. You can always take ferrites off, or return to stock cables.
 
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Oct 11, 2019 at 11:57 AM Post #8,631 of 18,516
Congrats for becoming officially "Roon Tested"!
HMS has already worked well with Roon, but it's nice to see an official acknowledgement.:smile_phones:


I need to check Roon's site to understand exactly what 'Roon Tested' really means. I don't think it means there are any special Roon-specific supported capabilities for M Scaler, or does it?
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:33 PM Post #8,632 of 18,516
A few alterations to roon's default settings are made in line with whatever piece of equipment is chosen alongside a database which roon keeps about the mscaler so they know its operating limits and parameters should you use roon's dsp with the mscaler. it's not roon ready where those products come shipped with internal roon recognition hardware/software. seeing as the mscaler is designed for rbcd i would imagine most here will want to keep their settings exactly the same as they always have been.
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:34 PM Post #8,633 of 18,516
did you not say you were now using the tt2 in place of the dave as it was more fleshy and organic? you've lost me here.

with respect to the ferrites can someone reassure me that these cost effective tweaks don't go against what Rob said concerning how adding ferrites decreases SQ with HMS as it already has internal mini ferrites?

the lightning was the only Britsh built and designed fighter jet to go over mach 2.

Amber have a look at the earmax pro tube amp. Real German quality for 500. i use to have one. here's a link. http://theac.co.uk/earmax.html

Yup. That’s exactly what I’m doing. Sold the Dave to get TT2 for that exact reason and it’s bliss. Just got the HMS yesterday. So what might be confusing is my remarks about Scaled Dave. Not too long after I got the TT2, I went to CanJam SoCal and tested out a Dave with Blu Mk II..basically M Scaled. I thought it was going to thin out Dave’s sound even more with all the added million tap detail. I was dead wrong. I used my own LCD-4s for the demo, which due to how power hungry they are, did NOT perform well straight out of my previously owned standalone Dave. So I was expecting the same out of the Blu/Dave but just with finer detail. Dude, Blu/Dave had the LCD-4 earpads shaking with rich, weighty, organic, soulful power..with extreme effortless detail and spaciousness. I was in shock. It blew the doors off the nearby dCS Bartok dac/amp, which in itself WAS the best sounding thing at the whole show. I then switched from BluDave immediately over to the demo TT2/HMS and heard pretty much the same amount of detail but the giant spacious image the Blu/Dave produced was shrunk in half and not as rich and impactful. Earpads were not shaking anymore. Now, I currently cheat to get that feeling out of my TT2/HMS with the WA33 and it works, but I can’t help but imagine what I described the scaled Dave’s sound as, being put through the WA33. Good lord. So, great, now I kinda want the Dave back to see what’s what.
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:48 PM Post #8,634 of 18,516
sell woo get dave?
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:29 PM Post #8,636 of 18,516
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:34 PM Post #8,637 of 18,516
Hang on for one moment do not sell the WA33 just get the Dave....

This guy gets it. I could just sell the TT2 and cough up the price difference for a used Dave. In time. TT2/HMS/WA33 is just fine for now.
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:37 PM Post #8,638 of 18,516
Oh here’s a stupid question. How do you turn HMS on and off?? It turns on when I plug it in but there’s no on/off button/switch. Not even on the remote and it doesn’t explain it in the quick start guide or PDF manuals on the Chord website. Maybe I’m blind idk.
 
Oct 11, 2019 at 2:00 PM Post #8,640 of 18,516
No on-off switch.

So, how do I turn it off? A button combo like the dimming? I seriously just unplugged it last night. Is there an auto on/off setting when used with TT2? I’m lost.
 

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