I’m not debating, just because TT2 doesn’t sound as transparent as Dave, it doesn’t mean it’s not as good as Dave, or better than it. Rob can’t exactly come on headfi and say “TT2 is better than Dave”, as he would get a punch in the face by John for destroying Dave sales. Rob also has to keep both camps happy whilst keeping sales up for both devices. I’m not Rob, but I have a feeling that he might, if asked, say that TT2 is the better device overall. That doesn’t mean it’s sound is better than Dave’s, it could just be the better device because of it’s upgraded abilities. People are always moaning about how Dave can’t drive Susvara and the likes. Plus, this is what I don’t get, why does Rob’s dac’s all have to sound like Dave, whose to say that TT2 doesn’t have the better more realistic sound ? Just because Dave sounds like it does, maybe it’s not realistic. Maybe what Dave owners are hearing is in fact an unrealistic sound, clear yes, realistic, possibly not ? Maybe TT2 is the more realistic dac of the two when it comes to SQ, maybe Dave owners have gotten used to an unrealistic sound and now don’t know what real music is supposed to sound like ? No two companies dac’s sound the same, even when they are using the same chip, so which companies sound is the correct sound ? In the end, all that matters is how much enjoyment we get from whatever device it is that we have. I get lots of enjoyment from TT2 and I’m sure I would get lots of enjoyment from Dave also.