[InstantSilence]

I can't really comment on DACs and HPs, but for the most important bit of gear, I'll counter that both top-quality and just regular everyday bongs give you the right resolving power...



Just poking fun.
But seriously, although I have a BS in Physics, I switched to Neuroscience for my graduate work, so my understanding of these things is rather simple minded. Can you help?

Although the conductance of silver is indeed roughly 5% better than copper, lowering the wire gauge by one unit increases the conductance about 25% or 30% or so. If you have a silver cable of one gauge and a copper cable one gauge unit lower, the copper cable will have better conductance (lower resistance) than the silver. Am I missing something? Is there more to it than conductance/resistance? Can it be explained to someone with only an undergraduate degree?

Without 3 phds... You just won't get it. I'll save my breath

 

[SoundAndMotion]

Without 3 phds... You just won't get it. I'll save my breath

Even with a super high-quality bong?

 

[Kentajalli]

Can it be explained to someone .........?

Yes you Dumbo !
Silver just sounds better - Deeeg?

I am sorry, couldn't resist it.

Moral of the story: How do I convince people ........ you can not!

 

[SoundAndMotion]

Yes you Dumbo !
Silver just sounds better - Deeeg?

I am sorry, couldn't resist it.

Moral of the story: How do I convince people ........ you can not!

Actually, “Silver just sounds better - I don’t know why” would have ended it for me. I wasn’t trying to convince, I was trying to understand the thinking. He said silver is better because it conducts better, which is true, a little, only if it’s the same gauge.
He probably thinks I’d attack or ridicule, which I understand, but that was not my plan. I want to understand the thinking.

 

[Kentajalli]

There has been so much misinformation put out there by cable snake-oil merchants that is unbelievable.
There was a time, that some were advocating that because at high frequencies, electrons flow more at the surface of a copper conductor, to get better treble you need to use multicore conductors, that's when we got those 250+ core speaker cables coming to the market.
Yes , electrons do travel better at the surface of a conductor (so I have read somewhere) but that high frequency they mentioned (or didn't mention) was in high GHz !
At 20kHz, a solid core 6 amp house wiring loom is as good as any soild silver cable.
Point is a cable is a non-reactive purely resistive passive device.
Unless it isn't - there were some cables sold as speaker cable, that in long runs (5 meters or more) were slightly reactive and capacitive, some Naim poweramps didn't like them and used to blow output transistors.
A very special case.
Pure silver wire for Moving coil cartridges and step-up transformers were a littlle beneficial - I suppose they could get an extra loop or more for the windings to reach the desired impedance. Again another special case.

 

[bigshot]

Differences cannot be observed with low quality gear like mojo and equivalent hp

Whatever. OK... So how about those Dodgers, eh?

 

[InstantSilence]

Whatever. OK... So how about those Dodgers, eh?

Idk what that is?

 

[TheSonicTruth]

Idk what that is?

The Dodgers? Major League Baseball team that just won the World Series.

And your location says "USA"? Sad. I still regard baseball as America's sport, not NFL football, or basketball, or tennis.

 

[InstantSilence]

The Dodgers? Major League Baseball team that just won the World Series.

And your location says "USA"? Sad. I still regard baseball as America's sport, not NFL football, or basketball, or tennis.

I care only about boxing

 

[bigshot]

You mean like Hulk Hogan?

 

[InstantSilence]

Cables matter and affect sound, not only depending on what materials the cable is used, but also it's design

 

[bigshot]

If they are used for the purpose they were designed to be used for, no they don't and copper and silver makes no difference, nor does how many times you twist it.

 

[colonelkernel8]

Define 'fancy' cable...Do you mean pure copper? What purity? Silver? Silver/copper hybrid? Because they all have different tonalities...

Oh jesus. This little section of the forum is not for you my man.

 

[colonelkernel8]

Cables matter and affect sound, not only depending on what materials the cable is used, but also it's design

No.

Cables can matter, when their impedance (of which only resistance is of practical relevance) is comparable to the resistance of the circuit with the transducers, 1/8 is a good well-known/cited rule of thumb.

Now, many IEMs, for instance, have impedance below 16 Ohm, even below 10 Ohm (do not ask me why), and typical stock cables can be easily 1.5-2 Ohms. So when someone changes stock cable for the cable of the significantly lower resistance (0.5 Ohm or less) - the difference is there.

This difference can be even more drastic for multi-transducer IEMs, such as multi-BAs, with transducer resonances, where their impedance gets lower.
There changing the impedance of the cables can appreciably affect the frequency response.

I hope I am stating fairly obvious things for this forum, just to point out that "cables matter" can be quite real sometimes.

Another story is when "graphene" cables are sold to poor audiophiles

Show me a stock cable with a resistance of 1.5-2 ohms that's shipped with 10 ohm or 16 ohm very high end IEMs (they have multiple parallel drivers, hence the low impedence). There is simply no way. If so, that is indeed a poorly engineered cable.

 

[colonelkernel8]

It is true for many IEM stock cables. Thin flexible wires.

That is how the fertile ground for "cables matter" is set up.

I don't believe it's on the order of 1.5-2 ohms. If so I don't think I would trust the rest of the engineering of the IEM.