yeah, well ifi can find a place that sells headphone enclosures, and a place that sells good speaker or headphone drivers, i can prolly sell a couple, through some links on the moon-audio site i found some really good drivers for around $10! If i can get some very small full range and some small tweeters i can make a pair of those multiple driver headphones. When I get home (im at my grandmas) i think im gonna cobble up another set, but i wont be able to listen to them yet, i need another cable, but i saw one at radioshack, if i make a new pair, im prolly going to sell them, maybey for $10-15 OBO. Also , does anyone know if the radioshack connectors are good or not?