[santiagozoo]

Understand concerns with the appearance, think their amp is much more attractive and special in this regard. But don't see any need for two box solution since it runs with batteries. Think it's awesome that it's so compact but still, very expensive also.

 

[CanDude]

You can always buy a Bakoon AMP-11R: http://www.klutzdesign.com/Product.php?sd_esp_1_pid=53
Just 5k... but HPA-21 will probably have better HP performance.
BTW Bakoon actually came up with this design before Apple released their products in this format.

 

[DarKu]

I'm happy to report that I most likely will have a HPA-21 unit in March for a careful listen with LCD-2 / LCD3 / HD800
Will keep you posted

 

[AManAnd88Keys]

 

The cable on these pictures is from Toxic Cables, probably Silver Poison or Silver Widow. I dare to say that the cable contributes significantly to the perceived clarity, resolution etc. !

 

[Currawong]

Screw you lot -- you've pushed me over the edge. I'm emailing them to see if I can drive down and demo a unit. 

 

[CanDude]

"Screw you lot -- you've pushed me over the edge." That's music in the ears of a head-fier!

 
Yes the Toxic cable (Silver Widow) probably helped with the clarity, treble presentation etc. But there was still an improvement in clarity when using the current socket as compared to the voltage socket, that produced a more "familiar" sound, like "your ordinary nice HP amp with a good cable". With the current socket I got the best of LCD-3 with the clarity and air from HD800. Or something like that...

 

[wild4sound]

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"Screw you lot -- you've pushed me over the edge." That's music in the ears of a head-fier!

 
Yes the Toxic cable (Silver Widow) probably helped with the clarity, treble presentation etc. But there was still an improvement in clarity when using the current socket as compared to the voltage socket, that produced a more "familiar" sound, like "your ordinary nice HP amp with a good cable". With the current socket I got the best of LCD-3 with the clarity and air from HD800. Or something like that...

You do realise that you have just  given us a world first impression of this amp 21 soundwise, right ?
You also realise another world first impression of the amp 21 with the Audeze 3  ok ?
And now you are already tweaking the sound with the Toxic cable !!!
Wow !!! you move fast over there .

 
This is headfi at its very best
Thanks a ton.

 

[CanDude]

Well, it was actually Klutz Design that wanted to show HPA-21 with the best equipment, i.e. LCD-3 with Toxic Silver Widow cable! 

 

[[H]ardwareNick]

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Well, it was actually Klutz Design that wanted to show HPA-21 with the best equipment, i.e. LCD-3 with Toxic Silver Widow cable! 

 
This amp looks promising.
 
CanDude, unless I've missed something, how/where did Klutz Design say that they thought the Toxic Silver Widow cable was the best for the LCD3? 
 
I'm personally interested as I'm shopping around for an amp and cables at the moment for my LCD3 and sorting through alot of information/feedback on the forums and want to be as objective as possible.

 

[stainless824]

Wonder if the current AMP-11r 15watt speaker amp's headphone output can match up to this. I was strongly considering it to drive speakers as well as my LCD-2's, but this has got me thinking

 

[CanDude]

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Originally Posted by [H]ardwareNick /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
CanDude, unless I've missed something, how/where did Klutz Design say that they thought the Toxic Silver Widow cable was the best for the LCD3? 
 
I'm personally interested as I'm shopping around for an amp and cables at the moment for my LCD3 and sorting through alot of information/feedback on the forums and want to be as objective as possible.

 
They have hardly tested every aftermarket cable on the market with LCD-3 (who has). This is what their sign beside HPA-21 said about the Toxic Silver Widow cable: "One of the most appreciated aftermarket cable for Audeze." They just wanted to show HPA-21 with really good gear.
 
I believe the Toxic Silver Widow cable is very nice. Comfortable. And since I managed to hear the low freq rumble on The Dark Side Of The Moon in the noisy environment I don't think it attenuates the sub bass, as my old (now unused) Q-Audio cable does. I'll probably buy a Toxic Silver Widow cable or two.
 
It's impossible to be objective about cables. Read reviews, forums etc. and pick one or two. I can only say one thing, if someone says that cables don't matter he/she hasn't compared the Audez'e stock cable with a good aftermarket cable (especially with a different sound signature) side-by-side. And that's fine too. At least for the wallet.

 

[CanDude]

Quote:

Wonder if the current AMP-11r 15watt speaker amp's headphone output can match up to this. I was strongly considering it to drive speakers as well as my LCD-2's, but this has got me thinking

 
I didn't feel any lack of power with HPA-21 and LCD-3, on the contrary. I wonder if it can drive HE-6? I'll check when I get a unit.

 

[santiagozoo]

Quote:

 
They have hardly tested every aftermarket cable on the market with LCD-3 (who has). This is what their sign beside HPA-21 said about the Toxic Silver Widow cable: "One of the most appreciated aftermarket cable for Audeze." They just wanted to show HPA-21 with really good gear.
 
I believe the Toxic Silver Widow cable is very nice. Comfortable. And since I managed to hear the low freq rumble on The Dark Side Of The Moon in the noisy environment I don't think it attenuates the sub bass, as my old (now unused) Q-Audio cable does. I'll probably buy a Toxic Silver Widow cable or two.
 
It's impossible to be objective about cables. Read reviews, forums etc. and pick one or two. I can only say one thing, if someone says that cables don't matter he/she hasn't compared the Audez'e stock cable with a good aftermarket cable (especially with a different sound signature) side-by-side. And that's fine too. At least for the wallet.

Did you get the impression that there's any difference between your red astrachan and this toxic cable? Otherwise toxic seems to marry many of the strengths of the q cable and beefier cables. Looking forward to see what you make of it if you do get a toxic and compare.

 

[CanDude]

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Did you get the impression that there's any difference between your red astrachan and this toxic cable? Otherwise toxic seems to marry many of the strengths of the q cable and beefier cables. Looking forward to see what you make of it if you do get a toxic and compare.

 
Impossible to say since I don't know how different HPA-21 and BHA-1 are. There's a big difference between the q cable and red astrachan, as far as I remember. My red astrachan review is still there, last post before that thread was closed...
I hope the Toxic Silver Widow is as least as good as red astrachan. The comfort is definitely better, of course!
 
Let's not turn this thread into a cable thread. I know that Soo In at Bakoon is following this thread and we don't want to bore him, don't we? 

 

[santiagozoo]

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Impossible to say since I don't know how different HPA-21 and BHA-1 are. There's a big difference between the q cable and red astrachan, as far as I remember. My red astrachan review is still there, last post before that thread was closed...
I hope the Toxic Silver Widow is as least as good as red astrachan. The comfort is definitely better, of course!
 
Let's not turn this thread into a cable thread. I know that Soo In at Bakoon is following this thread and we don't want to bore him, don't we? 

 
We most certainly do not  
 
Do we know where we can expect to see early reviews? Srajan's been writing about it. Anyone else?
 
Still keep thinking about the session with the hpa-21. It was an earopener and will definitely affect how i progress with my headfi choices/investments.