[trollbearpig]

Why do you care and why do you need to even share your personal view in an antagonist way?

Um because I don’t want to see people get suckered into wasting hard earned money on invisible improvements??? Is it so hard to prove cables make a difference??

 

[Aetherhole]

I think the thing to remember is aural acuity for every single person is different. Not only their perception, but what they can actually hear. Hearing loss is a consideration. Knowledge what to look/listen for is important, too. Not everyone can, will, or wants to hear a difference.

 

[Pashmeister]

Um because I don’t want to see people get suckered into wasting hard earned money on invisible improvements??? Is it so hard to prove cables make a difference??

If they hear a difference, and are happy, what’s that to you?

Wait til you hear about high end end fashion brands selling items that are of the same look and quality as most other regular brands. You can also take your advocacy there.

Ps: the headfi mute button is a godsend.

 

[Aetherhole]

Um because I don’t want to see people get suckered into wasting hard earned money on invisible improvements??? Is it so hard to prove cables make a difference??

We are literally all here ”wasting” money on a hobby 99% of the world population would say the exact same thing as you are, but about amplifiers, dacs, headphones, audio quality of files, etc.

 

[OCC7N]

Not to mention about cables...

I plugged in a I2S cable yesterday. Heard the difference withing 10minutes. It has been a day I still know how it sound different from the previous I2S cable..

This is even a digital cable. Did I say too much?

 

[theveterans]

Not to mention about cables...

I plugged in a I2S cable yesterday. Heard the difference withing 10minutes. It has been a day I still know how it sound different from the previous I2S cable..

This is even a digital cable. Did I say too much?

Even toslink cables (glass bundles vs plastic fiber) on a 44.1 KHz sample rate (not focusing on whether it can reliably transfer 192 KHz) sounds different from each other and we're talking light in this case

 

[Alpexis]

Please do a blind test with your girlfriend and share the results

We always do blind tests. That makes it more fun and easier to hear (and feel) the differences.

I'm sure that won't be a problem and she can easily identify which cables are which

Now you are upping the ante. I said we can easily hear the difference between crap, good and excellent cables in my system. Nothing more, nothing less.

But you've given me an excellent idea. Would be really interesting to take 5-10 cables, memorize their sound signatures and try to identify them blindly and reliably.

 

[OCC7N]

We always do blind tests. That makes it more fun and easier to hear (and feel) the differences.


Now you are upping the ante. I said we can easily hear the difference between crap, good and excellent cables in my system. Nothing more, nothing less.

But you've given me an excellent idea. Would be really interesting to take 5-10 cables, memorize their sound signatures and try to identify them blindly and reliably.

Trust me these people will never let go until they hear the silence in there own head.
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What I noticed: in some cables(on the chain) can be too airy and some too dry. Finding the perfect blend 50/50, will make elements pop out more, and emphasize holographic experience. It is a combination of cables on the chain.

 

[theveterans]

Trust these people will never let go until they hear the silence in there own head.
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What I noticed: in some cables(on the chain) can be too airy and some too dry. Finding the perfect blend 50/50, will make elements pop out more, and emphasize holographic experience. It is a combination of cables on the chain.

Truly system dependent. Pretty much use a sterile system and you'll probably won't hear much if there's a change at all. Now use a resolving system then even a change in power cable or even USB cable, toslink cable and you'll hear differences EASILY like within 3-10 seconds of hitting play button.

 

[jody2k]

For those who wondering if schiit midgard can drive the Susvara, not really tbh. Not for those who needs room for EQ.
I received the schiit midgard today, compared it with my class A luxman speakeramp + HE-adapter.
It was immediately clear to me the schiit midgard was quite a downgrade.
The midgard for me compared to my luxman speakeramp it was "lacking" authority in the bass range, also lacking punch and power.

I also noticed I needed to crank the volume all the way up, quite surprisingly the schiit midgard is supposed to be a 5watt headphone amp? Yes I double checked I was using the "high-gain" .
I am a heavy EQ user though so there's that (need to use -20db pre amp in equalizer apo).

Guess for my needs in future I need to go the speakeramp rolling route in combination HE-adapter.

 

[theveterans]

Mjolnir 3 at 2 watts is actually more compatible with Susvara than the Midgard with better dynamics, authority and refinement (second only to a Enleum 23R, around Prelude level). However, once you apply a negative gain from a PEQ, forget any Schiit amps and most headphone only amps and go straight for integrated/speakers amps for full headroom.

 

[AussieMick]

@trollbearpig - The name says it all. He’s just on having a laugh at the expense of those who react to, well…trolls. Don't worry, he uses aftermarket cables too, and can hear the difference. The pig. What a bear.

 

[theveterans]

Trollbearpig. The name says it all. He’s just on having a laugh at the expense of those who react to, well…trolls. Don't worry, he uses aftermarket cables too, and can hear the difference. The pig. What a bear.

He can tell the ultrasonic differences in cables considering a pig can hear in that region https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2272932/

 

[draytonklammer]

Are you guys still running on about that guy's thoughts?
Isn't this a Susvara thread? Ya know, about the Hifiman Susvara, a hifi product?

Goodness gracious. Get off of your high horses.
Such a simple comment he made, yet so much resentment sent unto him.

Since my return, I have met a lot of great people and had some great discussions, but this sort of blatant, consistent trashing of another user, with differing thoughts, disgusts me.
This hobby is built upon the foundation of every single person having a unique ear design, head geometry, and personal listening preferences.

 

[OCC7N]

For those who wondering if schiit midgard can drive the Susvara, not really tbh. Not for those who needs room for EQ.
I received the schiit midgard today, compared it with my class A luxman speakeramp + HE-adapter.
It was immediately clear to me the schiit midgard was quite a downgrade.
The midgard for me compared to my luxman speakeramp it was "lacking" authority in the bass range, also lacking punch and power.

I also noticed I needed to crank the volume all the way up, quite surprisingly the schiit midgard is supposed to be a 5watt headphone amp? Yes I double checked I was using the "high-gain" .
I am a heavy EQ user though so there's that (need to use -20db pre amp in equalizer apo).

Guess for my needs in future I need to go the speakeramp rolling route in combination HE-adapter.

If you lik EQ and have a computer.

1. Universal Audio UAD-2 Solo or duo. They are discounted. They only have the OCTO.
-buy a used one. they are very very cheap now I have the UAD-2 Solo PCIe. I would recommend you the DUO as it has more power. Some of there plugins are very heavy. You can demo ALL of their plugins for 14days.
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-accelerators/uad-2-pcie.html
2. Sonnox Oxford EQ
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/mastering/oxford-eq.html

The plugins are cheap now. You need a player that supports vst. Sonnox EQ just flat sounds good. Short said it sounds better than any other builtin eq, I have tried.

Also personally I think Susvara needs very little EQ. Almost none compared to other Hifimans.