Again, you're referring to old pre-production prototype, which is very clearly shown in your pictures. The production Susvara I'm listening to does not have the metal squeakiness you are referring to. If metal on metal bothers you, a small drop of any type of mineral or silicone oil will immediately clear up most of that noise. Everyone keeps waxing poetic on Stax SR-009 build quality, but anyone that's ever held one in their hands and have had longer term experience with them (and most Stax) know that the head band assembly is plastic, and quite fragile, especially the head sling mount. I've seen at least two that have broken before. So, I'll take "squeaky" metal over brittle plastic any day. Even the squeakiest abused prototype HiFiMan magneplanars didn't squeak when they were on my head at various meets / shows.
can somebody confirm that the stock cables of the Susvara are the same as the ones from the HE1000? are they as microphonic and unpleasant to the touch?
They're different than the cables from the original HE1000, which was covered in cloth-like multifilament nylon. I like that cable, but the newer one, which looks similar to the one that comes with the HE1000 V2, is more like a transluscent rubber tube around the wires. They're lighter, more flexible, and less microphonic. But they don't look and feel as nice as the older cable. But I guess comfort and sound quality wins there.
Don't like my impression on the Susvara. Okay let me redo it here
The beautifully sunshine and rainbow Susvara. O the gods has shine upon you. $6K for you? No I'll pay $10K for you.
All the problems you showed me when I picked you up from the table will be dismiss by my bias fandom.
The mediocre sound you release has the sound of two Sr-009 in my ears.
The Susvara is a magnificent pair. Hifiman sure has a winner here.
Even thou in 8 months from now a version 2 will be release I will still praise you O mighty Susvara.
I think this is what I was suppose to post here in the first place right?
They're different than the cables from the original HE1000, which was covered in cloth-like multifilament nylon. I like that cable, but the newer one, which looks similar to the one that comes with the HE1000 V2, is more like a transluscent rubber tube around the wires. They're lighter, more flexible, and less microphonic. But they don't look and feel as nice as the older cable. But I guess comfort and sound quality wins there.
I have wa33 on preorder and HEK v2 on process (upgrading from HEK v1), I hope someday I can bring back this headphone home.. I really like hifiman sound except all the issue but still can accept it.
Unlike with Audeze, I have driver fail with LCD 3, and it makes me away from audeze product.
Is this headphone really really good? how does it compare to electrostatic headphone, because my next target after getting my wa33 is to purchase electrostatic headphone and use wa33 speaker out with woo wee to powering it for the time being.
They're different than the cables from the original HE1000, which was covered in cloth-like multifilament nylon. I like that cable, but the newer one, which looks similar to the one that comes with the HE1000 V2, is more like a transluscent rubber tube around the wires. They're lighter, more flexible, and less microphonic. But they don't look and feel as nice as the older cable. But I guess comfort and sound quality wins there.
Cool! Thanks for additional details about the cable. I was asking the question because I got the Edition X V2 recently and have issues with the cable.
It's not microphonic, I can't hear anything when tapping it with my nail. But when I move my head, I can hear the wires hit the walls of the rubber tube, which is very annoying. I was wondering if the Susvara/HE1000 cable was any different in this regard.
Again, you're referring to old pre-production prototype, which is very clearly shown in your pictures. The production Susvara I'm listening to does not have the metal squeakiness you are referring to. If metal on metal bothers you, a small drop of any type of mineral or silicone oil will immediately clear up most of that noise. Everyone keeps waxing poetic on Stax SR-009 build quality, but anyone that's ever held one in their hands and have had longer term experience with them (and most Stax) know that the head band assembly is plastic, and quite fragile, especially the head sling mount. I've seen at least two that have broken before. So, I'll take "squeaky" metal over brittle plastic any day. Even the squeakiest abused prototype HiFiMan magneplanars didn't squeak when they were on my head at various meets / shows.
Talking about these cables, my experience from owning the He-500, the He-6, and especially, the He-K, and the Edition X, is that the sooner the stock cables are replaced with more capable aftermarket alternatives, the much better off the owner is... The stock cables of the Edition-X V2 and the He-1000 v1 & v2 are really pathetic bottlenecks holding back these otherwise wonderful cans from much of the sonic glory they can unleash when armed with more capable and liberating options! Hifiman, I hope you're reading this.
Ignoring the HE1 and ShangriLa systems, Susvara is the most expensive pair of production headphones in the world. They should come with a premium cable, or at the very least, a cable that isn't terminated by a hifiman intern.
Talking about these cables, my experience from owning the He-500, the He-6, and especially, the He-K, and the Edition X, is that the sooner the stock cables are replaced with more capable aftermarket alternatives, the much better off the owner is... The stock cables of the Edition-X V2 and the He-1000 v1 & v2 are really pathetic bottlenecks holding back these otherwise wonderful cans from much of the sonic glory they can unleash when armed with more capable and liberating options! Hifiman, I hope you're reading this.
I just saw these cables go for $249 for the 3m version on the HiFiMAN website, and $399 for the balanced cable.
a Neutrik 4-pin XLR plug costs what, $5? and the rest of the cable is identical. Do the maths
I find this quite laughable
Bravo HiFiMAN!
I just saw these cables go for $249 for the 3m version on the HiFiMAN website, and $399 for the balanced cable.
a Neutrik 4-pin XLR plug costs what, $5? and the rest of the cable is identical. Do the maths
I find this quite laughable
Bravo HiFiMAN!
This is the high end area of things, plus you can always get a different cable not sure why people complain, there are 1000$ cables going around as well..
My HE-1000 V1 are squeaky still and that's treatable via oil. Still, it doesn't matter whether it's HE-1000 squeakiness or SR-009 plastic you've mentioned. The thing is that in these two price range it shouldn't have happened in the first place. Products of caliber this heavy should be dandy in terms of such small things, at least that's what their high ask indicates if someone asks me. Just sayin'...
Ignoring the HE1 and ShangriLa systems, Susvara is the most expensive pair of production headphones in the world. They should come with a premium cable, or at the very least, a cable that isn't terminated by a hifiman intern.
You know, because they don't, people like me have something to do
Jokes aside, yeah, I agree that premium headphones should have premium cables included in the package. Most of us here are probably well aware of the difference it makes.
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