Hifiman HE1000 Planar Dynamic Headphone

Aug 11, 2023 at 2:43 PM Post #13,246 of 15,179
Can’t agree that the Stealth is overly bright. It’s open, transparent and detailed, but never bright, at least not in my system. Mc MHA200 with NOS Mullard and RCA tubes (not Russian reissues), WyWires Platinum cable (40% off on website, and Alex gives very nice trade-in values to boot), and primary sources are naim cd player and SME tt w/ Kleos cart, Cotter xfrmr, and Vertere phono stage, so no EQ. Haven’t compared to other HEK or Susvara, but they beat the pants off any of the lower priced HFM I’ve tried (560, Sundara, Ananda, XS - all of which I found to be ok, but ultimately lackluster and underwhelming), and play in the same league as my LCD-3 (although overall, I prefer the Stealth, they and the Audeze are very complimentary within the stable). For me, something like the Focal Clear Mg and Grados in general are unlistenably bright. I don’t hear the Stealths as being anywhere near that category, not at all, not even a hint. I consider the Stealths to be a pure delight - my Goldilocks cans. And a true ‘bargain’ at $1,399 if you’re looking to spend that kind of money (or more).

YMMV, and all that.
I agree, the Stealths may be described as having a bright signature but definitely not over bright unless used with the wrong gear. I love the energy they have, re bring the music to life, fantastic staging, going to be in my system for a long time. Recently added the Puritan ground master to my PSM136, now hearing even more detail, greater separation & depth, increased slam, just fantastic.
 
Aug 11, 2023 at 3:21 PM Post #13,247 of 15,179
Stealths were definitely brighter than the SE but I actually preferred the stealths but they were in no way sibilant to me.
Agree. They (stealth) are brighter than neutral around 6k (if not more), but not sibilant.
 
Aug 11, 2023 at 3:37 PM Post #13,248 of 15,179
Heads up, Hifiman pulled the Susvara from their Amazon storefront. This, coupled with the massive price drop on the HEKse and the fact that they haven’t released a flagship since 2018 strongly portends an imminent release of a new TOTL coming to market very soon. I own the HEKse and the HEK Stealth, and I honestly find the Stealth a considerable step up based on tuning alone (stronger bass presence, less fatiguing, pretty much comparable technically), but I’m highly anticipating either a refresh or replacement for the Susvara that is far easier to drive and much closer to Harman than the Susvara’s “reference” (flat) tuning.
Agreed to both. I wrote on the Susvara thread the other day I think a Susvara II and a HE-6 SE v3 are on the way - in part because they have updated all the other lines lately (400, Sundara, Ananda, Arya, HEK). After all they are the two most legendary products that they have made. I don't count the 5XX and 5 SE, and thos closed backs they make.
The HEKse seems like an obsolete outlier at this point, but it’s possible there may be a replacement in the works as well. But given that they haven’t released a round driver option for years (the Edition XS, HEK series, Arya, Ananda and Audivina have all been oval pad designs), I wouldn’t be surprised if they jettison the Susvara’s design and come out with a single new oval pad flagship that is an industry game changer. We shall see!
Round cups: The HE-6 v2 was released in what? '20 or maybe early '21, and the 400 and Sundara Stealth in '21 I think. They are not leaving those cash cows behind.

Susvara is shaped like the HEK inside, but looks like a blend of the long/round cups on the outside. I think there has been enough learned since '18 that they could refresh the Susvara, or just create a new name - say "Karma" and charge $7k for it, and drop the Susvara to $3k, and keep 2 models of HEK in the $1500 area (+/- $300), drop the Aryas to $999 or less.

What I would like HFM to do is make pads, cables, back screens, headbands that are well developed for sound/comfort/longevity for each model to match the quality of the drivers.
 
Aug 11, 2023 at 5:19 PM Post #13,249 of 15,179
To the discussion with HiFiMans Clinical clean sound high frequencies, headphones Like Arya and HEK. Before selling them try beatiful VST plugins.

The secret ingrediens is saturation(tape and distortion) and it will bring a new headphone out. Specially for those of you that use Deltasigma dacs....I say DAYUM! You need this!

For Susvara its still a step up, but the most advantage/gains is the Arya/HEKS, because they are formless in sound and can be molded into anything almost.
Lol-I had to google what a vst plugin is……I’m such a noob……
 
Aug 11, 2023 at 5:35 PM Post #13,250 of 15,179
Can’t agree that the Stealth is overly bright. It’s open, transparent and detailed, but never bright, at least not in my system. Mc MHA200 with NOS Mullard and RCA tubes (not Russian reissues), WyWires Platinum cable (40% off on website, and Alex gives very nice trade-in values to boot), and primary sources are naim cd player and SME tt w/ Kleos cart, Cotter xfrmr, and Vertere phono stage, so no EQ. Haven’t compared to other HEK or Susvara, but they beat the pants off any of the lower priced HFM I’ve tried (560, Sundara, Ananda, XS - all of which I found to be ok, but ultimately lackluster and underwhelming), and play in the same league as my LCD-3 (although overall, I prefer the Stealth, they and the Audeze are very complimentary within the stable). For me, something like the Focal Clear Mg and Grados in general are unlistenably bright. I don’t hear the Stealths as being anywhere near that category, not at all, not even a hint. I consider the Stealths to be a pure delight - my Goldilocks cans. And a true ‘bargain’ at $1,399 if you’re looking to spend that kind of money (or more).

YMMV, and all that.
Agree completely. I chose the stealths over the SE because of their extra treble energy which is in no way too bright or sibilant to my ears. I analogue EQ but don’t touch anything except add a little bass. I’m literally blown away by how good the stealths are.
I went in to my local (well 100kms away) hp shop and tried: Utopia 2022, LCD-5, Final 8000 and Susvara (finally on a good Burson amp). Every single hp sounded sublime, all slightly different but all eargasm-worthy. I also AB’d them against the hek stealths and not one single one of them was mind-blowingly better than the stealths. I would buy the utopias and final d8000 in a heartbeat if I had $5k aud (both on special) and susvaras if I had the Burson but what it showed me is that I have a top-tier pair of cans in the stealths and won’t be buying any others anytime soon (except a jm auduo xtc 2.5 closed as I need a really good closed back). I’m a very happy camper!!!! Enjoy your music people!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
 
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:41 PM Post #13,251 of 15,179
Susvara is shaped like the HEK inside, but looks like a blend of the long/round cups on the outside. I think there has been enough learned since '18 that they could refresh the Susvara, or just create a new name - say "Karma" and charge $7k for it, and drop the Susvara to $3k, and keep 2 models of HEK in the $1500 area (+/- $300), drop the Aryas to $999 or less.
Susvara at 3k would be a good price imo. I tried them and they were great, but not 6k great and definitely not 3-4 times the price of hek great. I think headphones tech has gotten to a point where the lastest and greatest doesn't always mean substantial improvement, just different tuning like Utopia og vs 2022. Nevertheless I am excited for new flagships because then I can get the old flagship at a reasonable price, like I was able to pick up a og Utopia for 1800 when the new one released.
 
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:46 AM Post #13,252 of 15,179
Can’t agree that the Stealth is overly bright. It’s open, transparent and detailed, but never bright, at least not in my system. Mc MHA200 with NOS Mullard and RCA tubes (not Russian reissues), WyWires Platinum cable (40% off on website, and Alex gives very nice trade-in values to boot), and primary sources are naim cd player and SME tt w/ Kleos cart, Cotter xfrmr, and Vertere phono stage, so no EQ.
Systems sure make the difference. The Stealth did very nicely w/my Gumby A1, probably find it hot with a random ESS DAC.
Haven’t compared to other HEK or Susvara, but they beat the pants off any of the lower priced HFM I’ve tried (560, Sundara, Ananda, XS - all of which I found to be ok, but ultimately lackluster and underwhelming), and play in the same league as my LCD-3 (although overall, I prefer the Stealth, they and the Audeze are very complimentary within the stable). For me, something like the Focal Clear Mg and Grados in general are unlistenably bright. I don’t hear the Stealths as being anywhere near that category, not at all, not even a hint. I consider the Stealths to be a pure delight - my Goldilocks cans. And a true ‘bargain’ at $1,399 if you’re looking to spend that kind of money (or more).

YMMV, and all that.
The Ananda Stealth is a big step over the OG Ananda, but no match for the Stealth. Even my HE-6 SE (modded, but no EQ in that session) except for lower bass was no match either. I didn't hear the SE as less bright than the Stealth, but, it was a different system.... so system matching as always a big deal.
 
Aug 13, 2023 at 10:16 AM Post #13,253 of 15,179
Systems sure make the difference. The Stealth did very nicely w/my Gumby A1, probably find it hot with a random ESS DAC.

The Ananda Stealth is a big step over the OG Ananda, but no match for the Stealth. Even my HE-6 SE (modded, but no EQ in that session) except for lower bass was no match either. I didn't hear the SE as less bright than the Stealth, but, it was a different system.... so system matching as always a big deal.
Agreed - it’s all about system matching and balance. Experienced 2-channel stereo guys seem to understand that implicitly, but for reasons I don’t completely grasp, it’s often a harder sell here on head-fi, where many (not all) want to put all their money into cans, and then get the least expensive possible electronics to run them. To me, and clearly to you, it is intuitively obvious that the better the cans, the more they will reveal weaknesses - or just mismatches - upstream.
 
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Aug 13, 2023 at 11:45 AM Post #13,254 of 15,179
Agreed - it’s all about system matching and balance. Experienced 2-channel stereo guys seem to understand that implicitly, but for reasons I don’t completely grasp, it’s often a harder sell here on head-fi, where many (not all) want to put all their money into cans, and then get the least expensive possible electronics to run them. To me, and clearly to you, it is intuitively obvious that the better the cans, the more they will reveal weaknesses - or just mismatches - upstream.
I think downstream equipment is fundamental in determining sound quality, headphones will only sound as good as the signal they are fed. Personally I spend more on amplification & Dacs than the headphones. I hear much greater improvements from this than from changing headphones. The Stealths really benefit from good a good source.
 
Aug 13, 2023 at 2:44 PM Post #13,255 of 15,179
I think downstream equipment is fundamental in determining sound quality, headphones will only sound as good as the signal they are fed. Personally I spend more on amplification & Dacs than the headphones. I hear much greater improvements from this than from changing headphones. The Stealths really benefit from good a good source.
My take:

I don’t go that far. Transducers are the key element - so for speaker systems - speakers/room, then the DAC, cartridge, or 15 ips tape. For headphones the room is included unless you want to fuss with the pads/cup/damping (I do).

Amps need to be capable - for instance u don’t want one that’s .3 wpc into 50 ohms with an OG HE-6, nor an OTL amp with
any sub 50 ohm headphone. I could probably get along nicely with a Pass amp (INT-30 say) on any non estat headphone, but that’s too much $. So a BHCs for my HD-600 and a Rag 1 for the planars. Changing the meh pads and the fuzzor mod on the HE-500 and OG HE-6 does more than the INT-30 > Rag 1, well more, and I get to drive speakers too.

But, amps/pre-amps/EQ etc does matter, have no doubt of that- just the degree. An Ananda Stealth on an INT-30 (or whatever is one’s pinnacle amp) isn’t going to match a HEK Stealth on a stock Liquid Platnium, but it’s closer than if both were on the INT-30.
 
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Aug 13, 2023 at 5:47 PM Post #13,256 of 15,179
@srkbear actually I'd like to see a revised - high sensitivity/low ohm Susvara , as i 'm use portable listen setups only lately or so..

I've been annoying Susvara owners on the other thread with this problem of mine , for quite some months now, consensus seems to be to not drive Susvara from anything portable , or you will be damned lurking in upgradities until you buy them a 'final' chain ( 5k $ *minimum* expense or so / but nothing portable anyhow so.. ) and lucky then if you feel set and it fits your ears need too..so...

Given the compromises , i am on the fence and keep wearing the hekse , consensus seems to be also they hekse are still the most close sound to Susvara out there , or very close , so..
Thank you for the thoughtful response! I actually find the two completely different, and there is a historical precedent for this—if you’ll bear with me as I offer my take on Hifiman’s fascinating and storied history:

Hifiman is an audio design/manufacturing company that is certainly distinguished by their innovation, with an ambitious, visionary and unusually humble PhD in nanotechnology at their helm in Dr. Fang Bian. In 2016, the Susvara was Hifiman’s first ultra-premium presentation of the planar magnetic technology they had been perfecting since they launched, in 2009. Audeze actually pioneered this new audiophile segment in 2008, and got some notice for their original LCD-2 in 2009; prior to that planar magnetics were primarily cheap alternatives to dynamic drivers, sold most notably by Fostex, and at that point they were ignored almost entirely by the audiophile set.

This is somewhat paradoxical, since planars were eventually recognized as a practical, portable and far less costly alternative to electrostatics, which had been the audiophile gold standard for years. Liberating the magnet from the diaphragm, without the burden of a costly energizer and dust-susceptible internal elements offered a way to make that diaphragm move with extraordinary speed and precision, with linear impedance across all frequencies—a technological breakthrough that should have been an audiophile’s dream from the beginning. But at the time this was a highly conservative, dogmatic consumer base that was tightly attached to their ways, for whom change was welcomed parsimoniously.

But the Susvara wasn’t Hifiman’s first flagship; that was the original HE1000, which debuted a year earlier in 2015. It was truly an astonishing achievement, and it was really the first planar to make actual waves (so to speak) amongst the classist, highbrow audiophile purists (think Stereophile). The original Edition X dropped less than a year later, as a mid-priced, lower impedance option that was arguably a predecessor to the Arya (the Edition X series was eventually repurposed as a TOTL budget option). Then, somewhat strangely, HFM dropped the Susvara, only a little over a year after the HE1000, just as it was gaining steam—and rightly or wrongly the Susvara completely eclipsed it (I would argue primarily due to its outlandish price tag as much as anything, which was without question a gesture of oneupmanship over Focal’s Utopia, released a few months earlier at a then-shocking asking price of $4,400. Those two cans established the $5,000-ish TOTL price point standard that we are still suffering with today).

Both the Susvara and the HE1000 offered their own signature innovations that have both since defined Hifiman’s brand to this day—the HE1000 with its peerless oval pad design, nanothin diaphragm and window shade grilles; the Susvara with a round incarnation of those technological advances but now with its celebrated Stealth magnet. Since at the time the audiophile community was still overwhelmingly dominated by classical music enthusiasts and similar “tastemakers”, the Susvara, with its ultra-conservative, round driver design and “reference” (flat) tuning (and $5,999 price tag) was the one that met Stereophile’s seal of approval, and secured the reputation as the “best”. The HE1000, with its far more rock-friendly tuning and avant garde, oval pad design (which eventually prevailed as the far superior and infinitely more popular one of the two) got relegated to the “nice try” category instead.

But then Harman released their final two compelling revisions in 2018 and 2019, and slowly (agonizingly slowly) started to be taken seriously for its intended purpose—to define a true industry tuning standard to supplant the prior Wild West tuning anarchy, that had built an endless list of PEQ databases to aid folks in tweaking their headphone collections to suit their listening preferences. In other words, it began to create a standard where one previously did not exist.

And Hifiman, being the innovators they are, were one of the first brands to catch on to this idea that the audiophile market was diversifying—that along with the aging purists, there were also legions of young folks brought up on rock and roll, hip hop and other modern genres who cared about premium sound quality options too—and the music industry was responding in kind by releasing more and more hi res digital masters of those genres, along with a burgeoning array of increasingly accessible gear coming to market that could play them. Not just in wood-paneled home libraries and cigar lounges, but on computer desktops, in playrooms and on nightstands. Some were even portable.

To put Hifiman’s innovative spirit in perspective, there are still stalwart brands that remain completely oblivious to this trend to this day—consider how Focal or Sennheiser continues to boast about the impeccable art pieces they keep cranking out, all with logarithmic bass rolloffs that start diving around 80hz, making any enjoyment of rock music impossible without gobs of PEQ. Now let’s revisit that original HE1000, which a year before the Susvara was offering respectable bass slam and physicality when the contemporary, gentile audiophile standard-bearers still scoffed at the mere concept of those terms.

So in 2017, HFM let the Susvara rest on its old school laurels, and totally redirected their focus on that powerful oval driver. That year they launched the HE1000V2, with a sensitivity of 90 compared with the Susvara’s positively impossible 83, and with an even more genre-versatile tuning—an achievement so remarkable that it still sits comfortably at number three on Crinacle’s all-time ranking to this day. Despite the Susvara’s success, HFM recognized the enormous capital it had with that HEK design—one with peerless comfort, fit, imaging and forgiveness of head placement—to become their iconic signature.

So in 2018, along with debuting the oval pad Arya and Ananda to complement the Edition X v2 at lower price points, they attempted to combine all of their signature achievements into a single flagship, with the HE1000se. This one had it all—the oval design, the nanothin diaphragm, new symmetric magnets, the window shade grilles, PLUS the Susvara’s stealth magnet and an anything-can-drive-it sensitivity of 96. They weren’t quite ready to stir up the stuffy audiophile standard bearers and call it their newest TOTL flagship—they priced it a bit more modestly at $3,500, and didn’t give it a definitive category at all.

But in so many ways it was such an advance over the Susvara—there are some that call it “95% of the Susvara” but that’s nonsense—it’s every bit as resolving as the Susvara, yet this time they managed to make that Stealth magnet move the diaphragm far more efficiently (efficient enough to run off a portable). Its only other difference is its more V-shaped tuning, and perhaps a tad narrower soundstage—but certainly not by much. I say none of this with any intended disrespect towards Susvara fans; my point is that both the Susvara and the HEKse are extraordinary achievements—it’s just that the Susvara is an optimal choice for the niche that prefers reference tuning, while the HEKse is the more democratic of the two.

The HEKse was versatile enough to work wonders for any genre of music, and it was as astonishing as anything else that yet come to the audiophile market, but it also revealed one of the weaknesses of the Stealth magnet that has only recently been solved in recent releases—namely the way it opens up frequency ranges from 10,000 hz and above, which brilliantly augments detail and clarity, but can cause some to find it fatiguing on certain tracks, especially when the bass isn’t tuned up a bit to compensate for the extra brightness. To this day there are those who prefer the original Arya, Ananda and HEKV2 to their later Stealth magnet iterations, and I think that’s fundamentally a matter of how much high end they can tolerate.

The HEKse received a fair amount of praise and continues to sell well, but in subsequent years, Hifiman put aside work on these two flagships and set about instead adding refinements and additions to their lower price tier models—all oval pad designs—and the majority of those refinements were about moving closer and closer to Harman tuning, and retrofitting the Edition X, Arya, and Ananda with their design innovations that had proved the most successful.

Most recently, they’ve updated all three to include the Stealth magnet, which was clearly a signature asset for their brand, and by last year they had established a proper unified line of models with consistent features, at different price points—the Edition XS—>Ananda Stealth—>Arya Stealth—>their existing flagships. In the midst of this they added a very misunderstood closed back oval option with reference tuning, that was specifically designed and marketed towards recording professionals—namely the Audivina. It proved a disappointment for those seeking the ultimate rock and roll headphone, who hoped the closed back design would even further emphasize the bass response and offer noise isolation, but that just wasn’t the market Hifiman had in mind when they designed it.

This flurry of releases might have led some to perceive Hifiman as unfocused, and might have bred some resentments among folks who had just bought an Arya incarnation only to find a new model released less than a year later—but I don’t see it that way. They’ve always been transparent about their willingness to allow their customers to trade up any lower priced model for a newer one, for only a portion of the list price difference, and I see this evolution in their product line as progressive and purposeful—they were continuing to innovate new technological advances, listening attentively to consumer feedback, and updating their entire product line with those features that worked.

So where are they now? Most recently, they’ve settled on a suite of successful features that are stock options in all products across an array of price points—the Stealth magnet, the asymmetric pads, the nanothin diaphragm and the window shade grilles have now become their signature feature set that is proprietary and unique to their brand. This is just savvy product differentiation, and I know of no other headphone manufacturer that has distinguished themselves with innovations to the degree that Hifiman has.

Most recently, over the last several months they’ve quietly modernized (and I would say, perfected) their entire oval pad line with the release of the HE1000 Stealth, Arya Organic, and Ananda Nano (the Edition XS, arguably the finest headphone under $500, dropped on New Year’s Eve 2021 and perhaps marked the beginning of their contemporary design strategy). All of these feature considerable aesthetic improvements, and substantially improved QC (which has been their one salient flaw to receive near-universal criticism for years), and there’s an option for those on just about any budget (the Sundara is still going strong for the average consumer seeking better than usual sound quality, but I don’t really consider it an “audiophile” product).

Most importantly, with these three releases they’ve edged even closer to Harman, by kicking up the bass shelf across the board—to join Dan Clark in being perhaps the only other major high end audiophile headphone manufacturer to offer a pleasing, versatile, and rock-friendly tuning right out of the box. Except that Hifiman offers it at a fraction of the cost, and with far greater sensitivity.

This entire evolution of their brand tells a compelling story, at least to me. And I think it’s worth mentioning that their price points are now unusually honest and fair, and in my view representative of the ultimate sign of technological progress—with the passage of time, it becomes less and less costly to mass produce the expensive R&D innovations of the past.

Finally, it is clear that there is one remaining step to this journey, that based on recent moves (moving the HE1000V2 to legacy status, slashing the flagship HE1000se price by $1,500, and dropping the Susvara from Amazon, their largest consumer storefront) seems imminent—and that is an upcoming refresh of their flagship model(s). Having the HEKse now available for $1,999 is certainly a tempting option at the moment—it is still one of their most remarkable achievements in my view, and one of my end game headphones I’ve held on to in my collection (although I’m listening to my HEK Stealth, with its thrilling bass slam and slightly less fatigue, almost exclusively these days).

But I would counsel anyone with that amount of cash to spare to consider holding out just a little while longer. Because if there is any validity to my characterization of Hifiman’s past modus operandi, I am very inclined to anticipate the release of a new, game changing flagship in the near future—a headphone that includes all of the assets I’ve mentioned above, but even more aligned with Harman, and that just might introduce a new innovation none of us has ever seen.

We shall see! :wink:

—Steve
 
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Aug 13, 2023 at 6:40 PM Post #13,257 of 15,179
curiously enough ( or talk about ears personality and personal needs , not particularly curious then ) I found the stealths more fatiguing then the hekse out of any of my 3 chains/amps ..

maybe the fatigue depends on how much time you spend listening continuously , how long are listening sessions , what is the limit of engagement for your music appeal / brain ( hekstealth were more engaging and modern on some genres - but then also more fatiguing way faster then hekse ) etc : I noticed also that mood of the day may influence hear sensitivity and frequencies appeal .

imo the soundstage is noticeably narrower , as I wrote in the past at the time of my picky comparison ( here in this thread too ) , the hekstealths will sound possibly very "closed in" , or if this reads offensive to someone then I would say they show sounds coming only from a sized sphere or radius ( in other words : the stage is quite sized on them - unrelated to the recording , it will reach only that far , let's tell 10m just for the sake of it , and this unrelated to the composition or mix , you will feel in a big room or studio at their best stage extension )
the hekse while uber-precise in placement , can sound comfortably super-deep and definitely with no given perception of perimeter or studio walls ( i.e. if the record contains a sub-bass reverb or a very far-echoing sound you ll find yourself measuring much more then 10m ), and at same time preserve their air / open air feeling ; hekstealths made 2 of my all time fav metal records sound their best-ever , but that ethereal air was gone .
I tested hekstealths , and while they bested the hekse in some qualities these differences were evident to me , and my favors were accordingly evident day after day and song after song - even though not covering the full 100% of them .. - so that I returned the hekstealths.

I also wrote that besides different qualities , I couldn't tell that hekse were more resolving then hekstealths . The tuning was different and the timbral attitude definitely was , but the details showed similarly - although in different sauce and sometimes slightly different texture too , very fine things here to hear ..- and about the same quantities between the two headphones .

About the bass I definitely found hekstealths the more modern of the twos' , but also the more colored , the slam ( midbass + mids ) might be appearing more on hekstealth but the deep bass or subbass reach feels overall better , more controlled and more defined on the hekse .

About the recent roundup of totl hedaphones in the planar-magnetic world, what I see is that builders still "need" to explore high ohm/low sensitivity in their research - to gain access to that sound presentation that they want to produce and sell as the best possible .
Many of them are still there nowadays , years after Susvara happened.
 
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Aug 13, 2023 at 6:40 PM Post #13,258 of 15,179
@boodi if that “like” was a courtesy response to my unbelievably, annoyingly TL;DR reply, I’d fully understand! I think I’ve made it more than clear to folks that I’m a major Hifiman fanboy :ksc75smile:
 
Aug 13, 2023 at 7:31 PM Post #13,260 of 15,179
Thank you for the thoughtful response! I actually find the two completely different, and there is a historical precedence for this—if you’ll bear with me as I offer my take on Hifiman’s fascinating and storied history:

Hifiman is an audio design/manufacturing company that is certainly distinguished by their innovation, with an ambitious, visionary and unusually humble PhD in nanotechnology at their helm in Dr. Fang Bien. In 2016, the Susvara was Hifiman’s first ultra-premium presentation of the planar magnetic technology they had been perfecting since they launched, in 2009. Audeze actually pioneered this new audiophile segment in 2008, and got some notice for their original LCD-2 in 2009; prior to that planar magnetics were primarily cheap alternatives to dynamic drivers, sold most notably by Fostex, and at that point they were ignored almost entirely by the audiophile set.

This is somewhat paradoxical, since planars were eventually recognized as a practical, portable and far less costly alternative to electrostatics, which had been the audiophile gold standard for years. Liberating the magnet from the diaphragm, without the burden of a costly energizer and dust-susceptible internal elements offered a way to make that magnet move with extraordinary speed and precision, with linear impedance across all frequencies—a technological breakthrough that should have been an audiophile’s dream from the beginning. But at the time this was a highly conservative, dogmatic consumer base that was tightly attached to their ways, for whom change was welcomed parsimoniously.

But the Susvara wasn’t Hifiman’s first flagship; that was the original HE1000, which debuted a year earlier in 2015.
Not the HE-6 4 or 6 screw? Stereophile included the HE-6 and HE-500 along with the HD-800, Stax 007, 009, LCD-2 in a review in 2011. It's always irked HE-6 fans that Inner Fidelity/Stereophile concluded that the HE-500 was the best of the bunch (outside of the then very expensive Stax 009). TAS also had a very flattering review of the HE-500 in 2011 - calling it world class. It seems like your take here on HFM history gives no or short shrift before the initial HEK release.
It was truly an astonishing achievement, and it was really the first planar that made actual waves (so to speak) amongst the classist, highbrow audiophile purists (think Stereophile). Somewhat strangely, HFM dropped the Susvara only a matter of months after the HE1000, just as it was gaining steam—and rightly or wrongly the Susvara completely eclipsed it (I would argue primarily due to its outlandish price tag as much as anything, which was without question a gesture of oneupmanship over Focal’s Utopia, released a few months earlier at a then-shocking asking price of $4,400. Those two cans established the $5,000-ish TOTL price point standard that we are still suffering with today).

Both the Susvara and the HE1000 offered their own signature innovations that have both since defined Hifiman’s brand to this day—the HE1000 with its peerless oval pad design, asymmetric magnets, nanothin diaphragm and window shade grilles; the Susvara with a round incarnation of those technological advances but now with its celebrated Stealth magnet. Since at the time the audiophile community was still overwhelmingly dominated by classical music enthusiasts and similar “tastemakers”, the Susvara, with its ultra-conservative, round driver design and “reference” (flat) tuning (and $5,999 price tag) was the one that met Stereophile’s seal of approval, and secured the reputation as the “best”. The HE1000, with its far more rock-friendly tuning and avant garde, oval pad design (which eventually prevailed as the far superior and infinitely more popular one of the two) got relegated to the “nice try” category instead.
The Susvara is not round - it's oval. It's also a better headphone than any of the HEK's. The HEK's are more popular than the Susvara because of cost. None of the HEK's have bass impact under 60 Hz as good as the Susvara - although the new Stealth is close. Maybe when you heard the Susvara, the amp didn't have enough power? I bring that up because nobody I know says the same thing. None of the new "long cup" HFM cans have bass impact or timbre near that of the HE-6 6 screw, nor even of the HE-6 SE, although not by nearly as much.
But then Harman released their final two compelling revisions in 2018 and 2019, and slowly (agonizingly slowly) started to be taken seriously for its intended purpose—to define a true industry tuning standard to supplant the prior Wild West tuning anarchy, that had built an endless list of PEQ databases to aid folks in tweaking their headphone collections to suit their listening preferences. In other words, it began to create a standard where one previously did not exist.
IMO, and that of others, the harman tuning as promoted is not neutral. It reflects the bias of bass heads under 100 Hz, and it's too bright in the upper mids/low treble. it also promotes the idea that FR is the only important target. Nothing about bass Q, damping or lack of damping of the cup and headband, issues of resonance tuning in closed backs (and open as well, just not as extreme), rise time, or ability to stop moving.
And Hifiman, being the innovators they are, were one of the first brands to catch on to this idea that the audiophile market was diversifying—that along with the aging purists, there were also legions of young folks brought up on rock and roll, hip hop and other modern genres who cared about premium sound quality options too—and the music industry was responding as well by releasing more and more hi res digital masters of those genres, along with a burgeoning array of increasingly accessible gear coming to market that could play them. Not just in wood-paneled home libraries and cigar lounges, but on computer desktops, in playrooms and on nightstands. Some were even portable.
That's debatable. Fostex, Audeze, and other brands do not follow this path you are suggesting.
To put Hifiman’s innovative spirit in perspective, there are still stalwart brands that remain completely oblivious to this trend to this day—consider how Focal or Sennheiser keeps boasting about the impeccable art pieces they keep cranking out, all with logarithmic bass rolloffs that start diving around 80hz, making any enjoyment of rock music impossible without gobs of PEQ. Now let’s revisit that original HE1000, which a year before the Susvara was offering respectable bass slam and physicality when the contemporary, gentile audiophile standard-bearers still scoffed at the mere concept of those terms.
Disagree. I guess you never heard the Audeze LCD-4, released in 2015. None of the HFM's outside of the HE-6 6 screw has bass like that. The original HE-1000 doesn't have bass slam anywhere near the Audeze LCD-2/3/4, or even the HE-6 SE. Then there is the Abyss Phi released in 2017.
So in 2017, HFM let the Susvara rest on its old school laurels, and totally redirected their focus on that powerful oval driver. In 2017 they launched the HE1000V2, with a sensitivity of 87 compared with the Susvara’s positively impossible 83,
The HE-1000 v2 is 90 db efficient according to several reviewers. 83 db is low, no question.
and with an even more genre-versatile tuning—an achievement so remarkable that it still sits comfortably at number three on Crinacle’s all-time ranking to this day. Despite the Susvara’s success, HFM recognized the enormous capital it had with that HEK design—one with peerless comfort, fit, imaging and forgiveness of head placement—to become their iconic signature.

So in 2018, along with debuting the oval pad Arya, Ananda and Edition X at lower price points, they attempted to combine all of their signature achievements into a single flagship, with the HE1000se. This one had it all—the oval design, the nanothin diaphragm, the asymmetric magnets, the window shade grilles, PLUS the Susvara’s stealth magnet and an anything-can-drive-it sensitivity of 96. They weren’t quite ready to stir up the stuffy audiophile standard bearers and call it their newest TOTL flagship—they priced it a bit more modestly at $3,500, and didn’t give it a definitive category at all.
The Edition X (2015) was the first headphone HFM released after the initial HEK design (2016). The Susvara, Ananda, Arya followed.
But in so many ways it was such an advance over the Susvara—there are some that call it “95% of the Susvara” but that’s nonsense—it’s every bit as resolving as the Susvara, yet this time they managed to make that Stealth magnet move far more efficiently (efficient enough to run off a portable). It’s only other difference is its more V-shaped tuning, and perhaps a tad narrower soundstage—but certainly not by much. I say none of this with any intended disrespect towards Susvara fans; my point is that both the Susvara and the HEKse are extraordinary achievements—it’s just that the Susvara is an optimal choice for the niche that prefers reference tuning, while the HEKse is the more democratic of the two.
So in your version of the world - Democratic == wrong/fun/colored. We clearly inhabit very different places. I'm sure your tastes are in the majority, but that is an impediment to reality for me.
The HEKse was versatile enough to work wonders for any genre of music, and it was as astonishing as anything else that yet come to the audiophile market, but it also revealed one of the weaknesses of the Stealth magnet that has only recently been solved in recent releases—namely the way it opens up frequency ranges from 10,000 hz and above, which does wonders for detail and clarity, but can cause some to find it fatiguing on certain tracks, especially when the bass isn’t tuned up a bit to compensate for the extra brightness.

It received a fair amount of praise and continues to sell well, but in subsequent years, Hifiman put aside work on these two flagships and set about instead adding refinements and additions to their lower price tier models—all oval pad designs
The HE-6 SE was released in 2018, and from where I sit, is better than any of the first two Ananda's, XS, and first two Arya's, both HEX's. HFM continues to develop and release round cup planar headphones such as the 400, Sundara (both w/ Stealth versions). Not to mention closed back headphones (dynamic and planar) which I have not heard.
—and the majority of those refinements were about moving closer and closer to Harman tuning, and retrofitting the Edition X, Arya, and Ananda with their design innovations that had proved the most successful.

Most recently, they’ve updated all three to include the Stealth magnet, which was clearly a signature asset for their brand, and by last year they had established a proper unified line of models with consistent features, at different price points—the Edition XS—>Ananda Stealth—>Arya Stealth—>their existing flagships. In the midst of this they added a very misunderstood closed back oval option with reference tuning, that was specifically designed and marketed towards recording professionals—namely the Audivina. It proved a disappointment for those seeking the ultimate rock and roll headphone, who hoped the closed back design would even further emphasize the bass response and offer noise isolation, but that just wasn’t the market Hifiman had in mind when they designed it.

This flurry of releases might have led some to perceive Hifiman as unfocused, and might have bred some resentments among folks who had just bought an Arya incarnation only to find a new model released less than a year later—but I don’t see it that way. They’ve always been transparent about their willingness to allow their customers to trade up any lower priced model for a newer one, for only a portion of the list price difference, and I see this evolution in their product line as progressive and purposeful—they were continuing to innovate new technological advances, listening attentively to consumer feedback, and updating their entire product line with those features that worked.

So where are they now? Most recently, they’ve settled on a suite of successful features that are stock options in all products across an array of price points—the Stealth magnet, the asymmetric pads, the nanothin diaphragm and the window shade grilles have now become their signature feature set that is proprietary and unique to their brand. This is just savvy product differentiation, and I know of no other headphone manufacturer that has distinguished themselves with innovations to the degree that Hifiman has.

Most recently, over the last several months they’ve quietly modernized (and I would say, perfected) their entire oval pad line with the release of the HE1000 Stealth, Arya Organic, and Ananda Nano (only the Edition XS, arguably the finest headphone under $500, has remained unchanged). All of these feature considerable aesthetic improvements, and substantially improved QC (which has been their one salient flaw to receive near-universal criticism for years), and there’s an option for those on just about any budget (the Sundara is still going strong for the average consumer seeking better than usual sound quality, but I don’t really consider it an “audiophile” product).
No mention of the HE-6 SE? Haven't heard it, or does not match your theme? I've never had a Quality issue w/my 9 HFM cans, but I have found the pads, cables (only theirs not Audeze/DCA etc.), rear screens, headbands to be not nearly as impressive as the drivers. That is too bad.
Most importantly, with these three releases they’ve edged even closer to Harman, by kicking up the bass shelf across the board—to join Dan Clark in being perhaps the only other major high end audiophile headphone manufacturer to offer a pleasing, versatile, and rock-friendly tuning right out of the box. Except that Hifiman offers it at a fraction of the cost, and with far greater sensitivity.

This entire evolution of their brand tells a compelling story, at least to me. And I think it’s worth mentioning that their price points are now unusually honest and fair, and in my view representative of the ultimate sign of technological progress—with the passage of time, it becomes less and less costly to mass produce the high R&D innovations of the past.

Finally, it is clear that there is one remaining step to this journey, that based on recent moves (moving the HE1000V2 to legacy status, slashing the flagship HE1000se price by $1,500 and dropping the Susvara from Amazon, their largest consumer storefront) seems imminent—and that is an upcoming refresh of their flagship model(s). Having the HEKse now available for $1,999 is certainly a tempting option at the moment—it is still one of their most remarkable achievements in my view, and one of my end game headphones I own (although I’m listening to my HEK Stealth, with its thrilling bass slam and slightly less fatigue, almost exclusively these days).

But I would counsel anyone with that amount of cash to spare to consider holding out just a little while longer. Because if there is any validity to my characterization of Hifiman’s past modus operandi, I am very inclined to anticipate the release of a new, game changing flagship in the near future—a headphone that includes all of the assets I’ve mentioned above, but is even more aligned with Harman, and just might introduce a new innovation none of us have ever seen.

We shall see! :wink:

—Steve
The HEK Stealth is a better "rock" headphone than the other HEK's and at $1399 certainly represents an excellent deal.
 
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