[Soundsgoodtome]

A few simple mods and the he4's treble gets 'right' to me. Stock form isn't much to my taste either but the he560 post production imo leans towards polite of a treble.

 

[SoAmusing777]

I'm getting the HE-560 Mondayyy. The coupon code I have expires that same day too, so 20% off $899 for me

 

[TMRaven]

Well guys, some interesting news.  After Jerg brought up the idea of swapping the preorder pads with the production pads on the production 560, a few of us said that it sounded warmer and more akin to the preorder 560.
 
I personally prefer the sound of the preorder 560 to the production 560, and here is what the production 560 looks like with the preorder pads.
 

 
 
 
For comparison's sake, here's the preorder one:

 
And here's the production 560 with the production pads:

 
 
 
 
The lowest bass rolloff and distortion on the pad-swapped production 560 could be a slight seal issue from the measurements, nothing you should be worried about.  Same goes for the extreme treble above 10khz again.
 
The preorder pads bring down the 4khz bump a little bit, to make the 560 sound more even throughout that region.  I speculate that it could be an issue with the use of pleather along the inside and bottom of the newest pads, the older pads have velour mesh-type material, which probably functions as better damping.  There could also be some differences in sound due to smaller opening, but as can be seen from my previous picture in this thread, the difference in opening is very minimal.

 

[rexirius]

  I'm getting the HE-560 Mondayyy. The coupon code I have expires that same day too, so 20% off $899 for me

Went to HeadRoom but the HE-560  is now marked "out of stock".

 

[SoAmusing777]

  Went to HeadRoom but the HE-560  is now marked "out of stock".

Yeah, mm, that's my fault actually. I was correspoding with the CEO of Headroom, and he said that actually wasn't suppose to be that way. Earlier you could buy it right then and there. Have to wait till Monday though.

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

The preorder pads bring down the 4khz bump a little bit, to make the 560 sound more even throughout that region.  I speculate that it could be an issue with the use of pleather along the inside and bottom of the newest pads, the older pads have velour mesh-type material, which probably functions as better damping.

Just checked under the pads of the production pads. Solid pleather underneath with perforated pleather on the inner canal wall. There will be a definite treble loss with that.. the original jerg calls for openings on the inside, not solid pleather. I'm tempted to tAke a needle to make perforations on the inside...

Btw with velour pads, there's striking similarity to my modded he4.

 

[jerg]

Just checked under the pads of the production pads. Solid pleather underneath with perforated pleather on the inner canal wall. There will be a definite treble loss with that.. the original jerg calls for openings on the inside, not solid pleather. I'm tempted to tAke a needle to make perforations on the inside...

Btw with velour pads, there's striking similarity to my modded he4.

Well it's not really the treble-loss or whatever that matters here, more the proper tuning in the upper midrange. I think the measurements there speak for themselves which pads tune the sound to be more neutral.

 

[tinyman392]

  Well guys, some interesting news.  After Jerg brought up the idea of swapping the preorder pads with the production pads on the production 560, a few of us said that it sounded warmer and more akin to the preorder 560.
 
I personally prefer the sound of the preorder 560 to the production 560, and here is what the production 560 looks like with the preorder pads.
 

 
 
 
For comparison's sake, here's the preorder one:

 
And here's the production 560 with the production pads:

 
 
 
 
The lowest bass rolloff and distortion on the pad-swapped production 560 could be a slight seal issue from the measurements, nothing you should be worried about.  Same goes for the extreme treble above 10khz again.
 
The preorder pads bring down the 4khz bump a little bit, to make the 560 sound more even throughout that region.  I speculate that it could be an issue with the use of pleather along the inside and bottom of the newest pads, the older pads have velour mesh-type material, which probably functions as better damping.  There could also be some differences in sound due to smaller opening, but as can be seen from my previous picture in this thread, the difference in opening is very minimal.

 
Thanks for the measurements.  Something I wanted to see. 
 
I wonder if anything changes if the pads break in   LOL.  Compressed foam can have different characteristics than uncompressed   Also changes distance to the mic as well...  Slightly  

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

Do the pre production pads have velour on the bottom and inner canal wall?

Well it's not really the treble-loss or whatever that matters here, more the proper tuning in the upper midrange. I think the measurements there speak for themselves which pads tune the sound to be more neutral.

 

[jerg]

Do the pre production pads have velour on the bottom and inner canal wall?

Not velour, the underside lining is a continuous weave of a permeable mesh fabric, sorta kinda like a very coarse stocking material.

 

[purrin]

  Not velour, the underside lining is a continuous weave of a permeable mesh fabric, sorta kinda like a very coarse stocking material.

 
Ooooh, so it's like UBER jerg technology. Methinks the pseudo-jerg pin size holes of the production pads aren't sufficiently big enough to do the job properly.

 

[conquerator2]

Deleted for ranting...

 

[jerg]

   
Ooooh, so it's like UBER jerg technology. Methinks the pseudo-jerg pin size holes of the production pads aren't sufficiently big enough to do the job properly.

Haha yep, that's a way of putting it.

 

[conquerator2]

Oh, well. I'll try first and hear

Both pads should be offered IMO. I'd gladly buy the smaller pads separately to test.[/quote]

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I sincerely hope HFM still has the old pads around...

Minus 1 for the bitchy Headfi community for bitching about something that was more than likely a non-issue for the vast majority of people to begin with.

That will teach you all to actually try a product before hopping on the 'change' bandwagon.

Now people will probably have to resort to modding the new pads to get them to sound like the old ones.

Old pads will become a rare commodity, exclusive to those who preordered early.