Hifiman Edition XS Launched
Jun 2, 2022 at 8:42 PM Post #1,802 of 2,784
Scheming on these for my next headphone. I have no experience with planars, and I understand these are had to beat for dance music (about 85% of my listening) at 1000 and under. Looking forward to them :)
 
Jun 3, 2022 at 1:47 AM Post #1,803 of 2,784
The Edition XS is great for gaming and music. The DT 1990 is picky for music and great for gaming until the treble gets too much.

The XS is arguably more detailed and is more tonally balanced. Get the XS.

Thank you for the reply.

I just bought it and I will receive it today (thanks Amazon!). I will report my impressions.
 
Jun 3, 2022 at 5:38 AM Post #1,804 of 2,784
I bought a cable from Etsy. I will share my impressions when I receive it
 
Jun 3, 2022 at 8:33 AM Post #1,805 of 2,784
Someone compared the XS with the DT 1990 Pro for gaming use? Which do you think is better for that?
I've used both of them thoroughly. For competitive gaming 1990 has an edge but XS is great too.
For normal gaming, XS is better. 1990 is overly aggressive and forward for that. Instead of creating an immersive atmosphere, 1990 make you inspect the sound quality of the game which breaks the immersion i think.
XS is also more comfortable but have stability issues.
 
Jun 3, 2022 at 1:30 PM Post #1,806 of 2,784
The Edition XS is great for gaming and music. The DT 1990 is picky for music and great for gaming until the treble gets too much.

The XS is arguably more detailed and is more tonally balanced. Get the XS.

I've used both of them thoroughly. For competitive gaming 1990 has an edge but XS is great too.
For normal gaming, XS is better. 1990 is overly aggressive and forward for that. Instead of creating an immersive atmosphere, 1990 make you inspect the sound quality of the game which breaks the immersion i think.
XS is also more comfortable but have stability issues.

So, I received the XS and I compared it to the DT 1990 Pro.

For music... there is just no competion: the XS is for me world ahead the DT 1990 Pro, period.

However, for gaming I definitely like more the "in your face" sound of the DT 1990 Pro, I just feel that I'm "there" in the game, the sound is "stronger", but sadly here I miss the "immersive atmosphere" you talk about. If I use an EQ for the XS and I boost the 8kHz the sound is for me much better, also "live" like the DT 1990 Pro. But too maybe I like here the DT 1990 Pro more. Can you suggest me a custom EQ for the XS in order to reproduce a similar "sound impact" of the DT 1990 Pro? It has to do with the treble, that's sure.
 
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Jun 3, 2022 at 2:17 PM Post #1,807 of 2,784
So, I received the XS and I compared it to the DT 1990 Pro.

For music... sorry there is just no competion: the XS is for me world ahead the DT 1990 Pro, stop.

However, for gaming I definitely like more the "in your face" sound of the DT 1990 Pro, I just feel that I'm "there" in the game, the sound is "stronger", but sadly here I miss the "immersive atmosphere" you talk about. If I use an EQ for the XS and I boost the 8kHz the sound is for me much better, also "live" like the DT 1990 Pro. But too maybe I like here the DT 1990 Pro more. Can you suggest me a custom EQ for the XS in order to reproduce a similar "sound impact" of the DT 1990 Pro? It has to do with the treble, that's sure.
Unfortunately XS will never produce that impact. 1990 is a punchy headphone.

Filter 1: ON PK Fc 100 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 0.100
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 7500 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1000 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain -4.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 4750 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 5.000

Something like this should make tuning similar to 1990.
 
Jun 3, 2022 at 2:56 PM Post #1,808 of 2,784
Unfortunately XS will never produce that impact. 1990 is a punchy headphone.

Filter 1: ON PK Fc 100 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 0.100
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 7500 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1000 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain -4.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 4750 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 5.000

Something like this should make tuning similar to 1990.
Thank you for this!

I will try it and report...
 
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Jun 4, 2022 at 1:37 AM Post #1,809 of 2,784
Unfortunately XS will never produce that impact. 1990 is a punchy headphone.

Filter 1: ON PK Fc 100 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 0.100
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 7500 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1000 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain -4.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 4750 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 5.000

Something like this should make tuning similar to 1990.

I tried this settings and with this eq the XS are indeed similar to 1990. It is definitely much better than before but for me not enough - now that I use the oratory1990eq settings for the 1990 which are even better.

With that eq settings we are on the right way. Please, could you (or someone else) try to think again about it and tell me how to make the sound even more similar to 1990? I need that "treble peak" which can be "sibilant", the gunshots should be more "punchy", more "impact".

I really would like to keep the XS because they are just fantastic for me!
 
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Jun 4, 2022 at 6:25 PM Post #1,812 of 2,784
I tried this settings and with this eq the XS are indeed similar to 1990. It is definitely much better than before but for me not enough - now that I use the oratory1990eq settings for the 1990 which are even better.

With that eq settings we are on the right way. Please, could you (or someone else) try to think again about it and tell me how to make the sound even more similar to 1990? I need that "treble peak" which can be "sibilant", the gunshots should be more "punchy", more "impact".

I really would like to keep the XS because they are just fantastic for me!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5st1w8rpe5iggwd/Hifiman Edition XS.pdf?dl=0 Use this and add these on top:

200 Hz Gain 3 dB Q 0,8
3000 Hz Gain -1 dB Q 0,4
7750 Hz Gain 10 dB Q 3
 
Jun 5, 2022 at 4:00 PM Post #1,813 of 2,784
The Zen in bal mode is very forward, within your head but very engaging.

So far with my limited time, I have had the vol about 9:00 to 9:30, max 10:00 but not much need for more. Vol only starts at 7:00 (o'clock).

Thanks for your feedback and I agree on the engaging part. We wanted our ZENs' sound to be quite forward and surrounding to involve a listener this much more. Nothing wrong with amps that project more distant images, however!
 
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Jun 6, 2022 at 3:47 AM Post #1,814 of 2,784

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