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Jul 20, 2023 at 1:19 AM Post #2,986 of 3,181
dithering is certainly the way to go when doing this, to avoid signal-correlated distortion. That's not to say that you will recoup any of the loss of SNR. Obviously not--you're decreasing the signal while the noise remains constant, or even increased for the sake of dithering. The point of analog volume control, if there is one, is that it attenuates both the signal and the noise.
Indeed. I tried using RS6 line out with Roon's dithered volume control directly in my speakers, it was excellent. Is it a complex piece of work to make volume control plugin for line out (linked with the volume knob) you think?
 
Jul 22, 2023 at 11:09 AM Post #2,987 of 3,181
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Jul 22, 2023 at 12:35 PM Post #2,988 of 3,181
Jul 22, 2023 at 1:12 PM Post #2,989 of 3,181
Hey @Joe Bloggs I want to use a 4.4mm to rca cable to connect hiby RS6 to cayin ha-1a mk2 amp . Will that be fine ? A cable maker told me to ask this before I get one made.
Unfortunately you'd first have to ask Cayin how their grounding is arranged on this amp.

The underlying technical issue is, that the 4.4mm output is balanced (L- L+ R- R+) while the RCA input may or may not be compatible with that. While there are the same number of pins (ignoring for the moment the extra ground pin on the 4.4mm end), on the RCA end it's ostensibly GND L GND R. If GND and GND are actually the same ground, you have essentially the same situation as infamously converting a 4.4mm output to 3.5mm SE headphones--the two balanced channels push-pulling against each other on the common ground on any stereo content, leading to messed up sound at best and possibly a burnt out output over time at worst.

Not so if the two grounds are well separated, or better yet if they share circuitry with some balanced e.g. XLR inputs on the same board and function similarly.
 
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Jul 22, 2023 at 1:28 PM Post #2,990 of 3,181
Hey @Joe Bloggs I want to use a 4.4mm to rca cable to connect hiby RS6 to cayin ha-1a mk2 amp . Will that be fine ? A cable maker told me to ask this before I get one made.



Edit: correction
Balanced to rca inputs on amp (with correct wiring - sum up the cold and screen at the RCA end ) typically worked with most balanced sources I've used.. This is not to say it'll work with RS6.

Some manufacturers like Lavry DA11 even provide xlr to rca plugs in the box with their dac. There's also an ifi adapter 4.4mm to 3.5mm with specific wiring for non balanced headphones (not sure how safe it actually is but ifi is a good company) - https://ifi-audio.com/products/headphone-adapter-3-5mm-to-4-4mm/

Try and get more info from Hiby on correct wiring to do this, be careful
 
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Jul 22, 2023 at 3:41 PM Post #2,991 of 3,181
Unfortunately you'd first have to ask Cayin how their grounding is arranged on this amp.

The underlying technical issue is, that the 4.4mm output is balanced (L- L+ R- R+) while the RCA input may or may not be compatible with that. While there are the same number of pins (ignoring for the moment the extra ground pin on the 4.4mm end), on the RCA end it's ostensibly GND L GND R. If GND and GND are actually the same ground, you have essentially the same situation as infamously converting a 4.4mm output to 3.5mm SE headphones--the two balanced channels push-pulling against each other on the common ground on any stereo content, leading to messed up sound at best and possibly a burnt out output over time at worst.

Not so if the two grounds are well separated, or better yet if they share circuitry with some balanced e.g. XLR inputs on the same board and function similarly.
Hmm I guess @Andykong could shed some light on this.
 
Jul 22, 2023 at 3:43 PM Post #2,992 of 3,181
Edit: correction
Balanced to rca inputs on amp (with correct wiring - sum up the cold and screen at the RCA end ) typically worked with most balanced sources I've used.. This is not to say it'll work with RS6.

Some manufacturers like Lavry DA11 even provide xlr to rca plugs in the box with their dac. There's also an ifi adapter 4.4mm to 3.5mm with specific wiring for non balanced headphones (not sure how safe it actually is but ifi is a good company) - https://ifi-audio.com/products/headphone-adapter-3-5mm-to-4-4mm/

Try and get more info from Hiby on correct wiring to do this, be careful
Yeah I also think it should be possible but would rather know now that later after I’ve fried something 😛. Incase it’s not possible I’ll just use a 3.5 to rca cable.
 
Jul 23, 2023 at 3:50 PM Post #2,993 of 3,181
HiBy music app is getting annoying - keeps logging out Qobuz. When I log back in I see a message logged in but the login page still stays qobuz doesn’t open. I keep retrying no luck. Not sure how I got it working last time, maybe reinstall but I don’t want to keep doing that

Noticed bunch of other bugs too..

Sounds good though it’s just a bit flaky
 
Jul 23, 2023 at 4:18 PM Post #2,994 of 3,181
Jul 24, 2023 at 9:06 AM Post #2,995 of 3,181
Try hardware reset: hold power button and top/next track button for about 20sec (https://track.hiby.com/Manual/Find?p=Hiby RS6&l=en - mentioned all the way at the bottom)
I am having a different issue with my RS6. The volume wheel moves up and it shows volume going up but with no sound output. It worked fine a few months ago last time I used it but since I have many daps I often put one aside for a while. Now there's no output from either 4.4 or 3.5 Po or Lo both don’t work. Can anyone help me out? @Joe Bloggs @HiByMusic any help would be appreciated. Cheers
 
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Jul 24, 2023 at 9:11 AM Post #2,996 of 3,181
I am having a different issue with my RS6. The volume wheel moves up and it shows volume going up but with no sound output. It worked fine a few months ago last time I used it but since I have many daps I often put one aside for a while. Now there's no output from either 4.4 or 3.5 Po or Lo both don’t work. Can anyone help me out? @HiByMusic any help would be appreciated. Cheers

Have you tried factory reset? But first, check to make sure you are up to date with all the fw updates.
 
Jul 25, 2023 at 10:00 AM Post #3,000 of 3,181
Exactly like mine. 3.5 and 4.4
Please help @HiByMusic @Joe Bloggs
For me their is no sound from 3.5mm headphone out and lineout.
Hi there,

If it's fresh out of a factory reset and there's no sound, it should be a hardware problem. Please contact hello@hiby.com or your local dealer if you bought it locally regarding this. Sorry about that.

Best regards,
Joe

edit: although, there is a possibility that something is wrong in software, if one of the other ports (say 4.4 for audionewbi) still works, and it's possible that the OS / NOS toggle in audio settings might make a difference.
 
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