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Dec 13, 2008 at 1:06 AM Post #1,006 of 1,734
Dec 13, 2008 at 3:35 AM Post #1,007 of 1,734
Thanks Boomy
I was enjoying them with the original cables, but when I exchanged them for the UE cables...wow. I was not expecting such a change in sound with a cable change. My other full size cans have small subtle changes in color with different cables. These actually opened up with a much broader open sound stage. I am still getting used to the custom fit. I am used to the black foam universal earpieces, so it is new to have these in. They slide in easily and stay put. I thought they might be tight but it also might just be the custom fit. I will give them a few days to see if the sensation of tightness fades. Love the sound though.
 
Dec 13, 2008 at 5:52 AM Post #1,008 of 1,734
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Just got my C3's in and am listening to david Cook's Light on now. I really had to crank my total bithead down for these, they are very sensitive. The vocals are rich and have soft natural tone to them not very "clinical" or harsh...


1. Crank it down as in volume or...? Is it bcos the C3 have a generous quantity of bass out of the box already?

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Thanks Boomy
I was enjoying them with the original cables, but when I exchanged them for the UE cables...wow. I was not expecting such a change in sound with a cable change. My other full size cans have small subtle changes in color with different cables. These actually opened up with a much broader open sound stage...


2. In your opinion, is the difference in soundstage worth the purchase of the UE custom cable? Or r there even more changes to the signature in addition to soundstage, i.e. what does it do to the bass?

3. Was it very tight to remove the original cable from the monitors? I'm worried abt snapping the double pins.
 
Dec 13, 2008 at 1:20 PM Post #1,009 of 1,734
Ralliart 12,
These are very sensitive monitors and require little to drive them. So I had to turn the volume down and set the bithead to low power mode. The bass is strong but with a little DAC support it is not overpowering. The cables made a big difference not only in sound stage, but in sound quailty in general, I was quite surprised. The cable cost me about $25, so I consider it well worth it. I found vocals very natural and present in the sound signature with highs slightly recessed.

I had such a good time last night listening to them that I probably over did it (4 hours) and this morning my ears are sore. Might be a fit problem or just not used to them yet. I recall seeing a suggestion to put a little moisturizer on them at first to help out. If anyone knows about this technique I would love to have your input.

The cables where not hard to remove if you use the lift method. They are precise fits so just yanking on them will be hard. Use a thin edge ( I used a razor blade) and gently rock the plug and it come right out without problem. It is no different than your internal non soldered connections in your computer or amp. It has about the same resistance as a SATA cable but 1/16 th the size of connector. Take your time and I would expect any trouble.
 
Dec 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM Post #1,010 of 1,734
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Ralliart 12,
These are very sensitive monitors and require little to drive them. So I had to turn the volume down and set the bithead to low power mode. The bass is strong but with a little DAC support it is not overpowering...


U see, I'm choosing a version of Mini3(as in the OP-AMP version), and since I have no C-3s to test them yet, I need to be careful not to choose aMini3 amp version that is too bass-ful to add TOO much bass to the C-3's ALREADY "significant" bass levels

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...The cables made a big difference not only in sound stage, but in sound quailty in general, I was quite surprised. The cable cost me about $25, so I consider it well worth it. I found vocals very natural and present in the sound signature with highs slightly recessed...


Cos the UE custom cables costs SGD$90 over here...how did u manage to get it for USD$25? SGD$90 is ard USD$57. Did the cables reduce the bass?


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Originally Posted by cliffjumper68 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
...The cables where not hard to remove if you use the lift method. They are precise fits so just yanking on them will be hard. Use a thin edge ( I used a razor blade) and gently rock the plug and it come right out without problem. It is no different than your internal non soldered connections in your computer or amp. It has about the same resistance as a SATA cable but 1/16 th the size of connector. Take your time and I would expect any trouble.


What is the "lift" method? Cos previously I learnt one had to do some filing and shortening just to get ES2 cables onto a triplefi, so I'm more than a bit cautious to fit 3rd-party cables onto non-same-brand monitors...

Hope these qns r not too much trouble...
 
Dec 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM Post #1,011 of 1,734
I can answer the Lift method question.
I use a metal nail file (very thin) and gently slide it under the middle of the connector between the two prongs. then gently rock it back and forth to push up each prong a little at a time. once the connector is loose ( about 1-2mm) it will pull out easily by hand.

Now the cable question. The UE "Custom" cable, The Westone ES (Custom) cable and the Hearyourself.com stock Custom cables all have Identical connectors at the monitor end of the cable. There is no need for any MOD to use them interchangable with any of the three manufacuturers Custom IEM's
The Custom cables from all three are NOT compatable with the Super-fi of Triple-fi series without some Modification. The tiny prongs are different widths apart (aprox .25mm) but enough to cause problems and the prongs on the SF & TF have silcone protectors that shield half of the prongs. So if you were to even to put a SF or TF cable on a Custom monitor, not only would the prongs be too tight but the SF/TF prongs would be too short without cutting of the silcone shield. and then they would be too long and need to be filed shorter.

In Short it's not worth trying to use custom cables on SF or TF mintors or vice versa. but the UE custom cables can be used on all three Custom IEM's.
 
Dec 13, 2008 at 5:56 PM Post #1,012 of 1,734
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Cos the UE custom cables costs SGD$90 over here...how did u manage to get it for USD$25? SGD$90 is ard USD$57.


Ask Boomy for help!
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Hopefully my C3 refit will arrive next week.
 
Dec 14, 2008 at 8:18 PM Post #1,015 of 1,734
Hello All! I am new to this forum, well actually new to posting I've been reading this thread for a few weeks now and feel like i know everyone here
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I posted a thought about getting ahold of Andre at hearyour self a couple pages ago, it totally worked for me. I upgraded to the C3's and just got them Friday. My question is what is the difference the cable from UE makes? I noticed Boomy and eyeameye both think it makes a big difference as does Cliffjumper. I bought these things for stage monitoring not for actual portable listening, but i figure i paid this much i might as well use them for my ipod as well
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i think with some EQ adjustments these things are pretty tight! I ran the signal through a 15 band graphic for live monitoring and it allows me to manipulate the frequencies exactly the way i want. i Found that these right out of the box are very low/midrangy with highs kinda burried. The great thing about these is the frequency response so you can manipulate the EQ. I love them for stage monitoring. So, back to my question, what do the UE cables do for these things? I've heard a couple people talk about the soundstage opening up, but i wonder does that mean? Does the stereo field appears wider? Does the cable enhance the high frequencies these things are able to put out? I think its just the stock EQ curve they are manufactured with. Not that its bad, but I'm more into rock music so the curve doesnt work for me as much, but like i was saying with the graphic they sound Great! At this point with the EQ adjustments I've made I'm not sure i even need to change the cable, but just wondered specifically what the differences are. Thanks all! I've read a few spots here that your ears need to adjust to the in ears and the more i listen the better they sound, but i wonder if its more of the fact that i'm getting used to the midrange sound than the fact that my brain is able to understand it. I play an HD147 head from line6 and can go through a multitude of tones when i go from one that has a high low boost for a while then go back to a normal type tone the midrange really stands out and it takes me a few minutes for it to sound normal again as does the change going to the high low boosted tone. Just a thought, anyone want to share their thoughts about the cable and the sound? By the way the comfort of these things is so sweet!
 
Dec 14, 2008 at 9:11 PM Post #1,017 of 1,734
Ralliart, when did your impressions arrive at the lab?
 
Dec 15, 2008 at 3:31 AM Post #1,019 of 1,734
Ralli,
i hope i didnt bum you out saying i got mine. I actually ordered a rush on them because we had a show...sorry if it did. I know they are working really hard over there to get all the orders out as fast as they can. I did everything i could not to blow up the phone every other day in anticipation
 
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