mikek200
Headphoneus Supremus
Tnx-LugBug
I was one step ahead of you...got it from amazon
I was one step ahead of you...got it from amazon
Tnx-LugBug
I was one step ahead of you...got it from amazon
Quote:Just to add, my fave B'hoven cycle following Karajan's masterful 62 is the new Ricardo Chailly on Decca. Its a very good studio recording, fully dynamic and will provide your HP's with a glorious tester
LugBug,
Tnx,for your reply..
I will search for this recording
The one annoying part of the recording that I mentioned above,is,that on a few symphony's,the most critical part of the symphony ..cd STOPS-,and you have to go to the next cd,to continue .
Extremely annoying,your ears are anticapating what comes next in the symphony....then nothing.
Is it safe to buy this newer recording from amazon,or,should I go to cduniverse?
Tnx
Mike
Quote:LugBug,
Tnx,for your reply..
I will search for this recording
The one annoying part of the recording that I mentioned above,is,that on a few symphony's,the most critical part of the symphony ..cd STOPS-,and you have to go to the next cd,to continue .
Extremely annoying,your ears are anticapating what comes next in the symphony....then nothing.
Is it safe to buy this newer recording from amazon,or,should I go to cduniverse?
Tnx
Mike
I've bought 100's of cd's from amazon and about 1% might be faulty. I'd just make sure that you check the feedback from whoever you are buying from.
just adding this, as my review is on here. It's the first one by DE Potts
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-The-Symphonies-Limited-Edition/dp/B005CYLSW8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357939573&sr=8-2
(sorry for the derailing guys but quality Beethoven is essential for quality headphones!!)
ironic considering that the sotroy goes that head of sony chose the playing length of cds based on the criteria that a single cd should be able to contain Beethoven's 9th symphony.
Quote:Mike,
imo the best Von Karajin beethoven symp. remasters on digital source for 16 bit are the cd layer on the box set that is sacd/cd (there is newr sacd/cd of the 9th but the box is better!). this is assuming you want the 1962/63 cycle. it also includes an extra cd of rehersals which is very very cool indeed.
i have multiple original vinyl pressings of this (on Deutche Gramaphone) and surprising as it is the 16 bit layer from the box set is superior. assuming you have decent dac or killer cd player.
also, the sonics on many of the cylcles released in the last 10- 15 years are fantastic, but performances vary of course - the Vanska someone mentioned is wonderful though.
Analog,
Thanks for your reply..
ON the Beethoven box set,it says 1963,so,I'm assuming this is one of the "better" cd sets is the Berlin Philharmoniker /Herbert Von Karajan.
I do not own a cd player..,using my desktop...computer.,which might be lacking is audio quality..???
I will have to research a better grade cd player..this will be my next purchase.
Any suggestions??
Tnx
Mike
Quote:ironic considering that the sotroy goes that head of sony chose the playing length of cds based on the criteria that a single cd should be able to contain Beethoven's 9th symphony.
Sorry,I dont understand your reply
Please explain
this is the von k: http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-The-Symphonies-Gundula-Janowitz/dp/B0000C03AH/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1357958088&sr=8-3&keywords=beethoven+symphonies+von+karajan+sacd+box
I recommend that you invest in a good DAC. even using your computer to spin the cds (ie using the pc as a transport), the signal as processed by a decent DAC will be far better than what's being produced by your pc's soundcard. i am using a dac with a tube driven output myself, and thereby also gain the benefit of a bit of tube 'warmth' and the varying sound signatures provided by different tubes. there are many threads regarding DACs with tons of info and suggestions, often titled by price point or range (i.e. "best DAC under $500"). I am using the Grant Fidelity Tube DAC-11 which I can highly recommend. It performs far beyond its price point of $350 and the tube that comes standard with it is actually quite good. It funtions as a USB DAC and also provides for direct digital i/o. It also serves as a preamp in that it has multiple inputs and outputs and a volume control. I am playing a lot of high resolution files from my pc's hard drives, and the sound is outrageously good. My cd player is a naim cd5 with outboard power ($3,000+) and sounds great when fed a decently mastered cd. The tubedac-11 can match it. That's saying something. The TD-11 also has a headphone out on it's front, but I find it to not perform at the level of my RSA HR2 dedicated solid state headphone amp. many people think it's great though. eh. I am able to drive high impedence headphones such as Sennheiser and beyerdynamics directly from what is labled as a "tube out" by using an rca to headphone adapter. The results from this compete easily with the HR2's output. When I use lower imp cans I take the signal from another the TD11 and feed it through the HR2 with fantastic results, thus using the TD11 as a DAC and a tube "processor". There is also solid state output, and passive output that simply passes along the DACs outputwithout effecting it at all. obviously this is not an amp with the juice for an HE-6. I will be driving my HE-6s with my david berning power amp when they arrive this coming week.
thread stolen again...sorry but i wanted to answer Mike's question.
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue58/tubedac11.htm
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=385504 this is a forum dedicated to Grant Fidelity gear
Regards,
Jim
you had stated that; "The one annoying part of the recording that I mentioned above,is,that on a few symphony's,the most critical part of the symphony ..cd STOPS-,and you have to go to the next cd,to continue ."
when the chairman of sony was asked what length he wanted the newly developed "compact discs" to be, his reply was that it must fit the longest of Beethoven's symphonies, to avoid doing exactly what you felt was annoying - splitting them up across multiple cds.
Quote:this is the von k: http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-The-Symphonies-Gundula-Janowitz/dp/B0000C03AH/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1357958088&sr=8-3&keywords=beethoven+symphonies+von+karajan+sacd+box
I recommend that you invest in a good DAC. even using your computer to spin the cds (ie using the pc as a transport), the signal as processed by a decent DAC will be far better than what's being produced by your pc's soundcard. i am using a dac with a tube driven output myself, and thereby also gain the benefit of a bit of tube 'warmth' and the varying sound signatures provided by different tubes. there are many threads regarding DACs with tons of info and suggestions, often titled by price point or range (i.e. "best DAC under $500"). I am using the Grant Fidelity Tube DAC-11 which I can highly recommend. It performs far beyond its price point of $350 and the tube that comes standard with it is actually quite good. It funtions as a USB DAC and also provides for direct digital i/o. It also serves as a preamp in that it has multiple inputs and outputs and a volume control. I am playing a lot of high resolution files from my pc's hard drives, and the sound is outrageously good. My cd player is a naim cd5 with outboard power ($3,000+) and sounds great when fed a decently mastered cd. The tubedac-11 can match it. That's saying something. The TD-11 also has a headphone out on it's front, but I find it to not perform at the level of my RSA HR2 dedicated solid state headphone amp. many people think it's great though. eh. I am able to drive high impedence headphones such as Sennheiser and beyerdynamics directly from what is labled as a "tube out" by using an rca to headphone adapter. The results from this compete easily with the HR2's output. When I use lower imp cans I take the signal from another the TD11 and feed it through the HR2 with fantastic results, thus using the TD11 as a DAC and a tube "processor". There is also solid state output, and passive output that simply passes along the DACs outputwithout effecting it at all. obviously this is not an amp with the juice for an HE-6. I will be driving my HE-6s with my david berning power amp when they arrive this coming week.
thread stolen again...sorry but i wanted to answer Mike's question.
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue58/tubedac11.htm
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=385504 this is a forum dedicated to Grant Fidelity gear
Regards,
Jim
Jim,
I'm going to need some time to go over this.info.
I've just acquired the schiit Mjolnir & the Gungnir dac---Right now,I will not be upgrading my gear,until,after,the Schiit Signature gear is out-2014,and even then,I might??? just upgrade the dac.
That being said,I will go over the links,and suggestions you've supplied.,and study this closely
Right now,honestly have to say,I believe I've reached a peak in my audio pleasure
My two top headphones,he-6 & hd800 combined with the speaker amp for the he-6's,and Schiit amp/dac,SS,fully balanced gear,are giving me unbelievable audio pleasure.
I have been listening to Beethoven,Brahms,and a few others since the ago of 10,on some symphonies,I can almost anticipate ,what the next notes will be ,& what they SHOULD sound like.
On my new gear,I'm almost in audio heaven...a few more feet,and I'll be pushing threw the clouds,and bumping into St. Peter.
But,with these new headphones,I hear details ,that I've never heard ,or,thought was possible--It's almost like finding a new hobby.
This why,I'm interested in getting the Beethoven recordings that LugBug has suggested..I would like to hear what you guys feel is an almost perfect recording.,and no,after some thought ,will not be buying a CD player
I will post back after going over the dac info ,you've supplied.
Many thanks,
Mike
Quote:you had stated that; "The one annoying part of the recording that I mentioned above,is,that on a few symphony's,the most critical part of the symphony ..cd STOPS-,and you have to go to the next cd,to continue ."
when the chairman of sony was asked what length he wanted the newly developed "compact discs" to be, his reply was that it must fit the longest of Beethoven's symphonies, to avoid doing exactly what you felt was annoying - splitting them up across multiple cds.
Ah,OK..Now I got it
Tnx for your reply
mike, sorry, i misunderstood. i thought you were just using a pc and no DAC, hence my rambling. It sounds to me like you are in heaven now! congrats and enjoy the music. you really should get a copy of that sacd/cd Van Karajan. you will not be let down.