dbfx
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hm.. so in reguards to the bass... the 2200s have more than the HD650s? Does this mean the bass is better or its just louder?
Originally Posted by dbfx /img/forum/go_quote.gif hm.. so in reguards to the bass... the 2200s have more than the HD650s? Does this mean the bass is better or its just louder? |
Originally Posted by dbfx /img/forum/go_quote.gif AAAAAAH. Alright, thanks alot for all the help. I think I just need to hear the HD650s to be able to make my decision |
Originally Posted by ralphp@optonline /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well I hope I answered your question |
Originally Posted by takezo /img/forum/go_quote.gif yes! thank you for such a descriptive effort and insight! great taste in music too! |
Originally Posted by Kees /img/forum/go_quote.gif @ ralphp@optonline: I agree with the best part of your description (and we share a lot of musical interests I think). I did some impressions on the PROline 750 here. About the bass I said: Bass: Electric bass sounds absolutely awesome. The upright bass is a bit different story. Some parts (the upper regions) sound wonderful, but the low notes can drown all else if there is an “else”. Solo they sound absolutely amazing. In a trio or quartet: drums, bass, piano and saxophone or trumpet the other instruments have more than enough impact to survive this. The result can be absolutely great, like on Summerwind. If the bass is supposed to accompany only, it can end up wrong. It is something I could easily live with though. Pros weigh heavier than the cons here for me. Music listened to: Stanley Clarke: If this bass could only talk. Marcus Miller Jaco Pastorius Ray Brown: Summerwind Charles Mingus: Ah Um. Remember this is about the 750. But I think it could be similar for ULE 2200. Only if the 2200 is open, the reverb problem I mentioned might not be there. Hope this helps a bit and does not confuse you more. |
Originally Posted by ralphp@optonline /img/forum/go_quote.gif As I've stated many people, as in quite a large number, find the Ultrasones to have a "muddy" sound... |
Originally Posted by Dexdexter /img/forum/go_quote.gif This is simply not true, Ralph. The "m-word" as regards to Ultrasone has been perpetuated largely by only one member that I can recall, although he has indeed used it repeatedly here, all based on a single, very brief experience under less-than-optimal meet conditions. Hardly convincing or even credible, as impressions go. |
Originally Posted by ralphp@optonline /img/forum/go_quote.gif In answer to your question regarding the bass of the Sennheiser headphones versus the bass of the Ultrasone headphones - short answer: NO COMPARISON. The Sennheiser HD650s have a very nice refined and pleasant bass which would never offend anyone while the Ultrasones have what they should market as something catchy like "BwB", short for "Bass with Balls", which is bass the way it should be slightly unrefined and often times just a bit offensive. If you're easily overwhelmed by bass while listening to headphones think twice before getting the Ultrasones otherwise go for it. In any event you really can't go wrong with either pair of headphones since they are both top flight cans and the difference between them come down more to a matter of personal preference than anything else. Also the longer you remain undecided the longer you're not listening to either of these great headphones |
Originally Posted by Sovkiller /img/forum/go_quote.gif I preffer the PROLines, of course he is not asking about the PROlines, and he is comparing the non top of the line heapdhones from Ultrasone, to the top of the Senns current flagships...a more fair comparison would be the PROLines..which bass aside of having balls, as you say is also realistic and more refined... |
Originally Posted by Dexdexter /img/forum/go_quote.gif To add further to the confusion, the 2200s are really PROlines in everything but their name; they are the open-back counterpart to the closed-back PROline 650s, just as the PROline 2500s are to the closed-back PROline 750s. They have the same Mu-metal shielding, detachable cord, and speed-switch ear-pads as all the PROlines do, so in essence the 2200s were the very first PROlines, only appearing before Ultrasone began to fill out that range with extra cords, ear-pads and fancy packaging. |
Originally Posted by Dexdexter /img/forum/go_quote.gif Actually, Alberto, the HFI-2200 ULE were at one point the top-of-the-line offering from Ultrasone (with the exception , of course, of the Edition 7), coming just before the creation of the PROline range. In fact, as I have posted here previously, they are PROlines in every technical aspect: And listing at $299, I certainly have no reason to believe the 2200s would be embarrassed in the company of the HD650. Hopefully, the OP will be able to hear them both. |
Originally Posted by Sovkiller /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sorry Dex, but I'm not familiar with the Ultrasone complete line of heapdhones, just the PROLines and Editions...but IIRC it uses gold plated diaphragms in the drivers instead of titanium, that may give it a different flavor which not being familiar with, I would refrain from commment on, the titanium vaporized drivers are consider the best drivers by Ultrasone themselves, of course that may carry some discussion given certain preferences, but accosding ot them, right now their top heapdhones are he PROLInes...below the Editions... |