[Welly Wu]

Go for the Ultimate Ears Ue-10 PRO. I have never read of anyone who has regretted getting them.

 

[doobooloo]

While searching for the ES3 on Google, I came across this:

http://www.audio-forum.net/tech/Cust...cs_170727.html

Quote:

Date: 06 Mar 2005 11:43:14 From: Hugo Lalumiere Subject: Re: Custom fit In Ear Monitors - Ultimate Ears, Sensaphonics My opinion is that if you're gonna buy 900$ earphones, do yourself a favor and dont buy earbuds.... Get a nice pair of BOSE earpads, they probably wont cost you as much, and you WILL get better stereo reproduction/bass response/overall flatness. Anyways, if you still want to go the earbud way, go with the company that has the longest and best warranty. At 900$, they should be warrantied for life! Hugo <hopefojani@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1110118296.353756.128580@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > > I'm considering the purchase of the Ultimate Ears UE-10Pro, > http://www.ultimateears.com/UE-10_PRO.htm or the Sensaphonics ProPhonic > Soft 2X, http://www.sensaphonics.com/soft2x.html > > Other IEMs to consider are the Future Sonics MG4, > http://www.futuresonics.com/html/products.html or the Westone ES3, > http://www.westone.com/music/elite.html#es3 but I haven't found too > much information on these in order to compare them against the previous > ones. > > As these headphones cannot be tested before purchase, I would like to > know your opinions regarding your experience with these, sound quality > wise. > > Ideally, if you have owned both, can you comment on which one would you > prefer against the other and why?

It was so funny and so depressing at the same time.

 

[steel102]

well heres a review comparing the two that might help you decide:

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76328

 

[robk]

I'm about 2 years away from having to make this decision (I will buy myself some ver high end IEMs when I graduate) but that review by lindrone has certainly swayed me in one direction over the other at this point. I wonder what the next 2 years might bring in either new headphones or new information.

rob

 

[Wmcmanus]

Yikes! Another 2X-S versus UE10-Pro thread.

Flip a coin. I keep telling people that, but nobody will listen. Man, if I had to do it all over again... I'd get out my favorite quarter and call it in the air. No better way to decide, IMO.

People who bought the UE10-Pro's are happy with them, some even love them. But same goes for the 2X-S. Of course, there may be an exception here or there, but generally everyone is exceptionally happy with whichever they choose. Only a handful of people have both, and the opinions there go in opposite directions.

So the bottom line is that you've got to make the call yourself based on everything that you can read about each product. Go with your gut instinct.

... Or flip a coin.

 

[Dick Danger]

One more review.

 

[boodi]

Quote:

Originally Posted by doobooloo While searching for the ES3 on Google, I came across this: http://www.audio-forum.net/tech/Cust...cs_170727.html It was so funny and so depressing at the same time.

when one is searching for es3 info through google 100% he will click on this page ( i got there too one month ago ..and eventually decided to get the bose insted of the es3

/jk).. I minded to chim in to tell the guy to take a tour here , I was lazy and didn't

 

[00325]

thx everyone

but i have one more question...

is 2X-S easy to drive ?

i only have the ipod , it need a AMP ?

 

[Spaghetti]

Coke vs. Pepsi? Ford vs. Chevy vs. Mopar? Republican vs. Democrat? I think these questions will be answered before Sensaphonic vs. UE.

 

[bahamaman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00325 thx everyone but i have one more question... is 2X-S easy to drive ? i only have the ipod , it need a AMP ?

Very easy to drive, as are all IEMs. In fact, there seems to be a consensus that amps don't provide the same degree of improvement with IEMs as they do with conventional headphones.

 

[robk]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamaman Very easy to drive, as are all IEMs. In fact, there seems to be a consensus that amps don't provide the same degree of improvement with IEMs as they do with conventional headphones.

Hmmm.... My ER-4P/Ss benefit dramatically from my SM3, and my SR-225s and SR-125s less so.

rob

 

[toaster]

the sensaphonics absolutely do not need an amp.

they will blow you away without one.

of course with an amp, they will sound even better, (which is hard to imagine, because i still can not believe how damn good they sound without one.)

 

[bahamaman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by robk Hmmm.... My ER-4P/Ss benefit dramatically from my SM3, and my SR-225s and SR-125s less so. rob

My fault, I overstated my point. Most (though not all) believe that UEs and Sensas do not significantly benefit from an amp.

 

[plainsong]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahamaman My fault, I overstated my point. Most (though not all) believe that UEs and Sensas do not significantly benefit from an amp.

I'd disagree here. What I love about the Sensas is that they do improve as your source/amp improves. Are they enjoyable ampless from an ipod? Sure they are! But add a good amp, and woa, improvement. Plug into your home source/amp and it's woaaaa... more improvement.

So yes they have the ability to grow. Basically, they are like a straight link to what your source and amp sound like, so if you think of it that way, of course they benefit from upgrades.

But no you don't absolutely positively need an amp, but it won't be a waste of money to get one either.

What improves in the sound? Everything really. If your source and amp gives it, then the Sensas will reproduce it.

Edit - let's put it this way. There was a couple of weeks when I didn't have time to use the ipod, only my home setup. So after that two weeks, plugging into the ipod after being so used to the sound of my home setup with the Sensas... the degradation in quality made me want to cry. But then my ears adjusted and I was happy. They're the best high-end headphone you can plug directly into an ipod.

 

[Mr Iriver]

I never tried a Custom IEM, but the guy in these review (http://www.macobserver.com/featurere.../05/07.1.shtml) preferred the UE5c to the Sensas. According to everything I have read the Sensa's should be much better, but I think it is something worth thinking for such a big purchase.

Also by the way I found interesting that the UE10 uses 2 drivers for bass and the other for the rest, meanwhile the Westone ES3 accordign to http://www.westone.com/music/pr_102303.html uses one for bass, one for mids, and one for highs.