Gustard U16 - the first USB Interface featuring ESS USB chip
Dec 17, 2019 at 3:27 PM Post #1,457 of 1,697
Hi all,

It seems U16 (out of the box) is not compatible with Sotm sms mini (Neo) I must downgrade 192/384 Khz files to 96 Khz in order to avoid crash.
I'm using the Gustard between Sotm/Roon and a Topping D70 Dac.

Any solution?
 
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Dec 17, 2019 at 6:02 PM Post #1,458 of 1,697
Hi all,

It seems U16 (out of the box) is not compatible with Sotm sms mini (Neo) I must downgrade 192/384 Khz files to 96 Khz in order to avoid crash.
I'm using the Gustard between Sotm/Roon and a Topping D70 Dac.

Any solution?

You should try a different firmwares and settings on the U16.

I have the SOtM SMS-200 Ultra Neo with Audinirvana feeding the U16 and to make it work flawlessly, only on PCM 44.1, with my Audio-gd R8 DAC, I've had to set the DAC to Asynchronous mode from its front panel and the U16 was with 1.61 NFB firmware on PS Audio mode.

But, as you have a different set up, DAC and may be different digital formats, you have to try different firmwares and setting options on your U16. Good luck!
 
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Dec 20, 2019 at 12:25 PM Post #1,460 of 1,697
I had a similar issue with an Innuos Zen mk3 server and the Gustard U16 as well. The combo played flawlessly when I throttled everything down to 24/96 and lower in Roon, but I couldn't play anything above, 24/192 and on, without a clicking distortion sound during the song. Other than that, I love the AES/EBU output of U16 with an outboard 10MHz clock and linear supply. It's really, really good!

Hi all,

It seems U16 (out of the box) is not compatible with Sotm sms mini (Neo) I must downgrade 192/384 Khz files to 96 Khz in order to avoid crash.
I'm using the Gustard between Sotm/Roon and a Topping D70 Dac.

Any solution?
 
Dec 20, 2019 at 1:08 PM Post #1,461 of 1,697
I had a similar issue with an Innuos Zen mk3 server and the Gustard U16 as well. The combo played flawlessly when I throttled everything down to 24/96 and lower in Roon, but I couldn't play anything above, 24/192 and on, without a clicking distortion sound during the song. Other than that, I love the AES/EBU output of U16 with an outboard 10MHz clock and linear supply. It's really, really good!
Are u using USB ? AES cannot do beyond 24/192
 
Dec 20, 2019 at 1:18 PM Post #1,462 of 1,697
Correct, I capped the output to my DAC (an Audio Mirror Tubadour III) to 24/192 within Roon, to accomodate the AES/EBU input. I couldn't even play 24/192 through the Innuos / U16 combo at all and had to cap it at 24/96. USB on the Innuos was fine up to my DAC's limit of 384k, no issues whatsoever.

Are u using USB ? AES cannot do beyond 24/192
 
Dec 20, 2019 at 7:07 PM Post #1,463 of 1,697
I had a similar issue with an Innuos Zen mk3 server and the Gustard U16 as well. The combo played flawlessly when I throttled everything down to 24/96 and lower in Roon, but I couldn't play anything above, 24/192 and on, without a clicking distortion sound during the song. Other than that, I love the AES/EBU output of U16 with an outboard 10MHz clock and linear supply. It's really, really good!

I have updated firmware to 1.61 and problem solved.

https://download.shenzhenaudio.com/Gustard/GU16V1_61_NFB.rom
 
Feb 9, 2020 at 1:32 PM Post #1,466 of 1,697
For everyone experiencing pops, you have to mess with your bios settings and your cpu voltages and if you are using HQPlayer, mess with buffer settings. For me there there were more pops as the ms increased. 5ms got me no pops.

DPLL on the LKS effects a specific kind of static.

I have a
1950x Threadripper - No spread spectrum.4000Mhz.vcore 1.235. offset .15 level 1. smt disabled (16cores). SOC offset Lvl 1.
x399m Taichi HPET table off
16gb Ram its rated 3000 but i have it at 3400 and 1.38
1030gt video card so no offloading

the mobo has 2 ethernets and they are bridged

cisco 2960-8tc switch - I like the 100mbs on the sotm more than the 1000mbs and this only works with the switch. the computer side goes in the 1000 connection and then one of the 8 100mbs for the sotm

sotm sms200ultra neo with a sps500 - ipv4 100mbs
gustard u16 - 1.4LKS firmware
LKS mh-da004 - i2s, fixed volume, autooff display, dll 10, usb module removed, XLR
then old classe amp+preamp and emerald physics 2.8's

KDE Neon but it works just as well with windows 10. i havent tested it as much with win10 though.
Roon Server with Roon controller on a android pad thing - fixed volume
HQplayer - 512DSD, 5ms Buffer, AMSDM7 512 + fs, multicore checked but no others, direct sdm checked. all volume is controlled by preamp, poly-sinc-xtr-mp, 512x44.1k

This setup took me about a year and a half to get perfect. A cool extra thing is that we were using morrow sp4 speaker cables, but changed to 10awg magnet wire with ends dipped in a solder pot and it sounds much much better. It is also a pain to work with and does not look very nice. Almost all off this stuff was figured out through trial and error. I have no clue why they work.

Hopefully this can help someone.
 
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