[wushuliu]

This seems to be an interesting project! Do you have any suggestion about the connector for the I2S out of this converter?

I'm not aware of any available pre-made connector for the i2s. I think you have to just add the wires yourself. I'll eventually do that since the DAC I am using currently is a Soekris 1021.

 

[mcluxun]

I'm also a U16 owner, I dont get on forum very often though. I had a short talk with someone close to Gustard about 10M source.
1 C16 is coming, it will be OCXO
2 For 10M source low freq phase noise is very important, off the shelf GPS clock is not going to cut it.
3 If you cannot wait for C16, get some HP 10M OCXOs.

 

[MarkR7]

Looks like the C16 is selling already.... it’s pricey!

GUSTARD-C16 hifi 10M Clock Audio master clock OCXO with connect cable https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/254314929549

 

[FredA]

Looks like the C16 is selling already.... it’s pricey!

GUSTARD-C16 hifi 10M Clock Audio master clock OCXO with connect cable https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/254314929549

Yep,. I found it too here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...hweb0_0,searchweb201602_10,searchweb201603_60

 

[roni44]

Shortly after I read about C16 here, I talked to the person whom has direct contact with Gustard and he is the one who directed me to buy the 10mhz clock. Base on his feedback, he doesn't think C16 is worth the price and the GPSDO clock I have in possession will do just fine against C16. Again, it's his word and I'm just passing it on, he did recommend to buy Cybershaft http://www.cybershaft.jp/a-products/ for what C16 is charging.

BTW, he did say Gustard has discard FW1.71, it will not be an official FW.

 

[FredA]

Shortly after I read about C16 here, I talked to the person whom has direct contact with Gustard and he is the one who directed me to buy the 10mhz clock. Base on his feedback, he doesn't think C16 is worth the price and the GPSDO clock I have in possession will do just fine against C16. Again, it's his word and I'm just passing it on, he did recommend to buy Cybershaft http://www.cybershaft.jp/a-products/ for what C16 is charging.

BTW, he did say Gustard has discard FW1.71, it will not be an official FW.

I got a regular ocxo (not disciplined) and an ultra-noise psu off ebay for 200usd total. The ocxo has burned for a week, the lps for 5 days. I get a very subtle improvment in the highs which improves decays on cymbals and adds some crispness to the sound, generally speaking. One needs a great setup to hear such a subtle difference. But right now, i use a poorly assembled 50ohm cable (did not have a crimper) so things should improve with an upcoming properly assembled cable.

I am happy with the results given the small investment.

 

[FredA]

One thing i should add is i use the r7he dac with the latast asynch fw, so the potential is limited, whatever the ocxo. A synchronous dac has better chances of benefitting.

 

[Monolithic]

C16 - phase noise is fairly poor which explains the low price. Seems to be worse than the Technics CG-10M. Mutec Ref10 is around -116. Cybershaft makes units with worse phase noise than Mutec and also makes units with better phase noise than Mutec. Cybershaft is currently sold out. Technics is $1500, Mutec Ref10 is $4000, Cybershaft is $1800 to $5500 with very limited quantities.

That being said, it remains to be seen whether the C16 does or doesn't make a cost effective audible improvement with the U16 for the given price.

 

[FredA]

C16 - phase noise is fairly poor which explains the low price. Seems to be worse than the Technics CG-10M. Mutec Ref10 is around -116. Cybershaft makes units with worse phase noise than Mutec and also makes units with better phase noise than Mutec. Cybershaft is currently sold out. Technics is $1500, Mutec Ref10 is $4000, Cybershaft is $1800 to $5500 with very limited quantities.

That being said, it remains to be seen whether the C16 does or doesn't make a cost effective audible improvement with the U16 for the given price.

Gustard quotes - 100db at hz. I think it's inaudible at 10hz and above. The noise level (vertical axis) is what matters the most at this point Using a bitching psu will have more impact than the ocxo itself, as long it is able to keep the power clean internally.

 

[bequietjk]

I know this is unrelated but you guys would know best, at least with the experience most of you have in converters.

Has anyone tried the Teralink X2? At $80 I'm very curious! Plus, Teradak being the wonderful company to provide us those amazing low cost, great performing LPS' they have (DC30W).

 

[mcluxun]

Here's what I got for myself: Stanford Research PRS10 Rubidium clock
<-130 (10Hz), <-140 (100Hz), <-150 (1kHz)

 

[FredA]

I know this is unrelated but you guys would know best, at least with the experience most of you have in converters.

Has anyone tried the Teralink X2? At $80 I'm very curious! Plus, Teradak being the wonderful company to provide us those amazing low cost, great performing LPS' they have (DC30W).

It is supposed to be good according to rb2013. The 30w unit is clearly better still according to rb2013. I can recommend this one without hesitation:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/25W-TALEMA-Ultra-Low-Noise-linear-power-supply-DC-12V-2A-upgrade-your-device/143331836888?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Get a shielded dc cable from ghentaudio (52$), it should help too. I just ordered one.

 

[wushuliu]

I know this is unrelated but you guys would know best, at least with the experience most of you have in converters.

Has anyone tried the Teralink X2? At $80 I'm very curious! Plus, Teradak being the wonderful company to provide us those amazing low cost, great performing LPS' they have (DC30W).

The X2 SPDIF Converter is very old. Avoid. I had one I think about 10 years ago. That's like 100 DAC years. I'm surprised they still sell it. I think FredA is just talking about the Teradak power supply with regard to rb2013, NOT the X2. Any of the cheap XMOS spdif converters will be better than an X2, which uses the old Tenor chip.

 

[FredA]

The X2 SPDIF Converter is very old. Avoid. I had one I think about 10 years ago. That's like 100 DAC years. I'm surprised they still sell it. I think FredA is just talking about the Teradak power supply with regard to rb2013, NOT the X2. Any of the cheap XMOS spdif converters will be better than an X2, which uses the old Tenor chip.

Yes indeed. There are better xmos converters for around 100$ or less.

 

[FredA]

Sorry for the misunderstanding.