[m-i-c-k-e-y]

No worries...

If you feal you found the right MIX go for it! But bear in mind that some of us have their own journeys/experiences/equipments too...and far more crazier that we might expect.

 

[camrector]

No thank goodness technology is doing away with the horribleness of USB.
I had all of that with my Pontus 2. Then once I got the Silent Angel streamer I could go direct I2S and not need a DDC. Sound was better and measurements were better.
Now I’ve optimized my network with FMC and LPSs for R26 via LAN and it is even better and measures better than direct I2S.
Here is a great educational review of how a flagship DDC via USB measures worse and subjectively sounds worse than a $150 direct streamer using only I2S. A DDC is pointless now when you have streamers with I2S.
A streamer is pointless when you have a really well implemented renderer via LAN in your DAC.

 

[winged creature]

I sold my iFi Zen stream because the streamer in the R26 is so good. I thought the Zen stream would be my last streamer, I guess not.

 

[Forgisound]

I mentioned in the group that I bought an RG400 50 Ohm BNC cable on AliExpress. And that he is good. He was good until he opened up completely. Now the high and medium tones are opened with it. And somehow sharp. I'll give him another chance. But if someone wants to buy such a cable, I can't recommend it yet.

 

[migo]

No thank goodness technology is doing away with the horribleness of USB.
I had all of that with my Pontus 2. Then once I got the Silent Angel streamer I could go direct I2S and not need a DDC. Sound was better and measurements were better.
Now I’ve optimized my network with FMC and LPSs for R26 via LAN and it is even better and measures better than direct I2S.
Here is a great educational review of how a flagship DDC via USB measures worse and subjectively sounds worse than a $150 direct streamer using only I2S. A DDC is pointless now when you have streamers with I2S.
A streamer is pointless when you have a really well implemented renderer via LAN in your DAC.

I need to disappoint you, internal "streamer" of R26 is connected with USB to its DAC.

root@Gustarender-1v3:~# lsusb -v -t
/: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-3/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
/: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-1/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
/: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-2/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 1, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 2, Class=Application Specific Interface, Driver=, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 3, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd

 

[Forgisound]

I need to disappoint you, internal "streamer" of R26 is connected with USB to its DAC.

root@Gustarender-1v3:~# lsusb -v -t
/: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-3/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
/: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-1/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
/: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-2/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 1, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 2, Class=Application Specific Interface, Driver=, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 3, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd

We know that.

 

[camrector]

I need to disappoint you, internal "streamer" of R26 is connected with USB to its DAC.

root@Gustarender-1v3:~# lsusb -v -t
/: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-3/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
/: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-1/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
/: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=Sstar-ehci-2/1p, 480M
ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 1, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 2, Class=Application Specific Interface, Driver=, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 3, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=, 480M
ID 20b1:3033 XMOS Ltd

That’s not a disappointment. It’s not the same thing at all.

 

[winged creature]

Lets hope they add Tidal or Spotify Connect at some point.

 

[camrector]

We know that.

Roon

We know that.

XMOS is recognised as a generic USB device by Roon.
The way that the XMOS handles Ethernet/LAN is very different than USB.
It’s not at all like USB audio passed from a USB cable.

 

[BShaw]

Lets hope they add Tidal or Spotify Connect at some point.

Amen to that. I’ll go a step further into the cosmos and pray for Qobuz Connect! I read somewhere that Qobuz was actually considering such a thing.

 

[migo]

Roon

XMOS is recognised as a generic USB device by Roon.
The way that the XMOS handles Ethernet/LAN is very different than USB.
It’s not at all like USB audio passed from a USB cable.

It's like audio is passed from LAN to Linux and than to USB connected DAC. I know there is no real cable but traces on PCB.

 

[duffer5]

Okay Team Gustard R26 another newbie question,

Does the R26 use PS audio hdmi mapping or the JAVS method for the i2s port on the Gustard r26 or is the mapping for the HDMI in the Gustard R26 strictly proprietary.

Thanks in advance.

 

[camrector]

Okay Team Gustard R26 another newbie question,

Does the R26 use PS audio hdmi mapping or the JAVS method for the i2s port on the Gustard r26 or is the mapping for the HDMI in the Gustard R26 strictly proprietary.

Thanks in advance.

It seems that Output A is PS Audio standard and Output B is JAVS standard as far as the Rose Pin out. Neither are what Gustard uses,

 

[duffer5]

My mistake, I missed that. Thank you.

 

[duffer5]

@camrector thank you for the ongoing help. Another quick question. I am just going to go with the U18 as the uncertainty if some random DVI to HDMI cable is going to work makes the U18 route more of an easier pathway for me. That being said since I am technically not connecting my R26 to a computer but to my Hifi Rose 150b streamer which uses Android and the 150b and the R26 are indeed connected via USB, would I still benefit from the u18 or does the u18 only benefit those that are connected their computes to the r26.