[Anaxilus]

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wow didn´t know that the m4 carbine had such high rate of fire 30 rounds in a second
 

That's one of the reasons it was designed in the first place plus the minimal recoil.
 

 

[swifttal]

Just wondering, has anyone here gotten an M1 Garand from the CMP? If so, do you recommend it? I've been thinking of getting one as my first rifle (mostly because I am a complete history nut, and what better historic firearm)

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Hells yeah you should get one! Everyone who qualifies should take advantage of CMP - great gun and ammo deals to be had. Will be getting another 1917 enfield shortly to replace the one I had stolen last year... May have to get another '03 while I'm at it.... Damn! There I go again...

Hi, my name's Bryan, and I'm a CMP-oholic...

 

[wareagle69]

Another fan of the CMP Garand's.  The price is good, the service is excellent and the history of the M1 will make you want more than one.  These are 2-3 MOA rifles with the Greek HXP that you can buy from the CMP.  If you handload and work at it a bit, you can often get it to shoot  1.5-2 MOA. 
 
All kinds of good info here:
 
http://forums.thecmp.org/index.php

 

[balderon]

My wife wanted a small "MIB cricket" to carry in her purse. I made an impulse purchase of the Rugar LCP (http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/models.html). The grouping was not too bad at 15 yards. Definitely accurate enough for personal protection. The only drawbacks are it's always double action and only loads 6+1.

 

[pigmode]

My first choice would have been the S&W titanium/scandium J frame. 

 

[marvin]

Had an Sc/Ti J frame. Only thing that comes to mind when I think of one is ouch.

 

[pigmode]

That's why I've never gone beyond +p. I like the theory that it will hurt more on the other end, and theoretically you only have to say ouch 5 times, max

 

[leftnose]

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Had an Sc/Ti J frame. Only thing that comes to mind when I think of one is ouch.

 
No kidding!  I'd rather shoot full-house .44 Mag loads out of a (6)29 than any J-Frame with short grip.  My buddy has one and the first time I shot it, I limp wristed it a bit and a bullet unseated!  Took me a second to realize why the cylinder wasn't rotating.   Um, probably because half of the 158-grain RN was sticking out the front of the cylinder! 
 
At least with an N-frame, I can get a proper grip on the gun.
 
 
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That's why I've never gone beyond +p. I like the theory that it will hurt more on the other end, and theoretically you only have to say ouch 5 times, max

 
Yeah, but you have to practice with it and that means saying ouch a whole bunch more times than 5.
 
 

 

[ozz]

I have had various pistols and calibers over the years and my take on it is get the pistol that feels comfortable and easy for you to shoot and a Glock 17 has been my choice for awhile now.

 

[Old Pa]

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That's one of the reasons it was designed in the first place plus the minimal recoil.
 

Try 12 rounds a second for a cyclic rate of 720 rounds per minute, although it can vary slightly with propellant type.
 

 

[Anaxilus]

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Try 12 rounds a second for a cyclic rate of 720 rounds per minute, although it can vary slightly with propellant type.

Not sure why you are quoting me but I did try it out 'abroad' for about 7 months a few years ago.  Thx.  

  I do need to convert my own AR to a gas piston though so no more phones for a bit.
 

 

[Old Pa]

 
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Not sure why you are quoting me but I did try it out 'abroad' for about 7 months a few years ago. 

 

Because your quote was the last that seemed to confirm a usual cyclic rate for an AR M4 of 1800 rounds per minute.
 

 

[Anaxilus]

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Because your quote was the last that seemed to confirm a usual cyclic rate for an AR M4 of 1800 rounds per minute.
 

No, my quote said it was designed to throw lots of lead downrange fast.  I'm pretty sure I didn't mention any numbers.  The person who did quote that rate actually misquoted his own video if you even watched it.  Anyway the M4 can get up to 975 but whatever.
 

 

[grawk]

In real terms, it can fire 30 rounds quickly, and then requires a reload. And if you're firing more than 3 at a time, you're doing something wrong.

 

[swifttal]

Yeah, m4 averages 800-900 from what our armorers tell us as well... If anyone wants to see what 1800 rpm looks like, YouTube the AN-94. It does 1800 rpm with 2-round burst - man that is a badass rifle!