fair, but every review of every new tech product says that. I’m not switching off iPhone anytime soon so until they implement Apple Lossless over Bluetooth or LDAC (fat chance), I think TWS is maxed out. I just still love my andros and didn’t get caught up in CA releasing like 12 new (crappy) models, so these are so tempting.If someone concludes their review of a $250 TWS without ANC with the words "I have a feeling the next generation of wireless buds from Campfire could be game changing"... then my natural reaction would probably be to wait for that next generation.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
- Thread starter webreaper
- Start date
erockg
Headphoneus Supremus
I take all reviews with a grain of salt. Pick pieces of them that interest me and then try stuff out for myself. I'm on iPhone/Apple too. I've found a bunch of TWS that I truly love. Some way overpriced I'm sure, but I don't care.fair, but every review of every new tech product says that. I’m not switching off iPhone anytime soon so until they implement Apple Lossless over Bluetooth or LDAC (fat chance), I think TWS is maxed out. I just still love my andros and didn’t get caught up in CA releasing like 12 new (crappy) models, so these are so tempting.
Luke Skywalker
Headphoneus Supremus
Ya I love the gemini sound but I got them out of the case the other day and they were completely dead. I'm using some foam eartips so maybe the squished away from the charging contacts but I've had this issue before. I love the sound when I'm sitting still or walking but I get a really loud popping when I run on the treadmill.Funny, I had an unopened Gemini on my desk for over a month now. I was going to sell it after I got and really liked the ATH-TWX9, but last night I was listening to something that just didn't work -- too thin somehow. Then I spied the the Gemini, ripped it open and it was perfect, like settling into a favorite old armchair. The AT's have that amazing soundstage, but the Geminis have the mix of big open bass + detail that is just so pleasant. Add in good noise cancelling and wind handling and they are keepers, albeit with crap battery life. But if they ever do come out with something new I'm right on it.
I think I'm going to have to give up exercising
Luke Skywalker
Headphoneus Supremus
Ya I love it too. I don't even listen to this kind of music that often but it sounds great on SP3000+Vision EXTNice album, kind of a Black Sabbath vibe in the guitar work. Sky Burial, great groove.
MaxwellDemon
500+ Head-Fier
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2010
- Posts
- 918
- Likes
- 1,070
Interesting! Seems like you get a good sound profile (but not as good as Noble ForKus) and nothing else with it. I probably will give this a hard pass as much as I want to try a CFA TWS...A few are starting to filter in...
https://majorhifi.com/campfire-audio-orbit-review/
https://blog.hifiheadphones.co.uk/campfire-audio-orbit-review/
Sennheiser MTW3 sounds very good with AptX Adaptive.
Source: HTPC W11, Creative BT-W4 (love it!) and Apple Music "lossless" through Windows subsystem for Android.
BT-W4 is set at 24bit/96khz output, but not sure if I get 24bit/44-96khz, or if the emulator downgrades to 16bit/44khz. (like Apple Music with Bluestacks emulator)
Still noticably better than AAC from iPhone 14 Pro Max and AAC 256kbps. Crisper and more detailed.
Source: HTPC W11, Creative BT-W4 (love it!) and Apple Music "lossless" through Windows subsystem for Android.
BT-W4 is set at 24bit/96khz output, but not sure if I get 24bit/44-96khz, or if the emulator downgrades to 16bit/44khz. (like Apple Music with Bluestacks emulator)
Still noticably better than AAC from iPhone 14 Pro Max and AAC 256kbps. Crisper and more detailed.
SynaestheticA
500+ Head-Fier
You don't sound like you want to be convinced not to purchase these at allfair, but every review of every new tech product says that. I’m not switching off iPhone anytime soon so until they implement Apple Lossless over Bluetooth or LDAC (fat chance), I think TWS is maxed out. I just still love my andros and didn’t get caught up in CA releasing like 12 new (crappy) models, so these are so tempting.
I look forward to your first impressions
LordToneeus
100+ Head-Fier
I caved and picked up the APP gen 2 a couple days ago. Absolutely magical. MtW3 I just bought are going back to Amazon.I wonder if there’s any sense in buying these CA orbits and their supposed surprisingly good soundstage when I’m very happy with my AirPods Pro and their manufactured spatial audio. Someone convince me not to waste my money! You have approx 3 hours till I click order.
Luke Skywalker
Headphoneus Supremus
Totally agree, my friend! The NFP is the best TWS I’ve heard. I’d love it if they had ANC but that would probably diminish the sound quality. I loved them so much that I took a big gamble and bought some used Kublai Khans without even auditioning them. But they ended up being even more amazing than I’d hopedThe Noble Fokus Pro comes close. They're a phenomenal entry. No frills, but triple driver, beautifully sculpted, great soundstage and separation. Jim and his team at Noble killed it. They sell out all the time. Granted, not as good as my IEMs, but nonetheless, good stuff.
Today I've just found one annoying thing about the Soundcore Life Dot/A 3i.
When i turn on "Do Nof Disturb" mode on my phone (Samsung Note 20), whenever there's a phone call incoming, it would automatically answer them, even before the notification flashes on the screen. In these day of age when the only phone calls i received are from my parents and spam telemarketers, it's really awkward, and also annoying for the latter..
I haven't checked all of my TWS, but among the few I've tested, none of them show the same problem. I am curious if any other 3i users (or any other Soundcore TWS for that matter) on Android also experienced the same problem?
When i turn on "Do Nof Disturb" mode on my phone (Samsung Note 20), whenever there's a phone call incoming, it would automatically answer them, even before the notification flashes on the screen. In these day of age when the only phone calls i received are from my parents and spam telemarketers, it's really awkward, and also annoying for the latter..
I haven't checked all of my TWS, but among the few I've tested, none of them show the same problem. I am curious if any other 3i users (or any other Soundcore TWS for that matter) on Android also experienced the same problem?
Caipirina
Headphoneus Supremus
- Joined
- May 25, 2015
- Posts
- 2,219
- Likes
- 2,086
webvan
1000+ Head-Fier
- Joined
- Feb 20, 2009
- Posts
- 1,010
- Likes
- 440
With no sign of a passive mode I have asked for a return of the QCII and made it clear why, hopefully other people who need TWS when cycling or running or in windy conditions will do the same and they'll add that most basic of options available on $50 ANC TWS !
jant71
Headphoneus Supremus
- Joined
- Feb 19, 2005
- Posts
- 8,368
- Likes
- 6,203
Final will release the complete wireless earphone "UZURA" from the company's wireless audio brand ag on December 16, 2022, with the themes of "noise cancellation that does not tire you" and "natural sound capture". The estimated actual selling price is around 9,980 yen including tax.
Plenty of colors for erockg to choose from....
8/22 hour battery life, 5.2, IPX4, SBC/AAC, and uses Final E type tips.
Still at the point where the small better shaped is the cheap one and flagship has to be that huge unwieldy beast
. Maybe in 2023 we can merge the two.
New adapters...
8/40 hours, 30mw each side, transparency and gaming modes, app with 10 band EQ and transparency levels adjustment etc. Only up to aptX though. You would need to adapt from QDC to other connectors or do a little surgery on them.
Plenty of colors for erockg to choose from....
8/22 hour battery life, 5.2, IPX4, SBC/AAC, and uses Final E type tips.
Still at the point where the small better shaped is the cheap one and flagship has to be that huge unwieldy beast
New adapters...
8/40 hours, 30mw each side, transparency and gaming modes, app with 10 band EQ and transparency levels adjustment etc. Only up to aptX though. You would need to adapt from QDC to other connectors or do a little surgery on them.
Last edited:
erockg
Headphoneus Supremus
Hahahahaha! I tried so much to like a pair of Ag buds a while back. Tried. I'm really enjoying the Nuratrue Pro buds right now. They did a great job with them.Final will release the complete wireless earphone "UZURA" from the company's wireless audio brand ag on December 16, 2022, with the themes of "noise cancellation that does not tire you" and "natural sound capture". The estimated actual selling price is around 9,980 yen including tax.
Plenty of colors for erockg to choose from....
8/22 hour battery life, 5.2, IPX4, SBC/AAC, and uses Final E type tips.
Still at the point where the small better shaped is the cheap one and flagship has to be that huge unwieldy beast . Maybe in 2023 we can merge the two.
New adapters...
8/40 hours, 30mw each side, transparency and gaming modes, app with 10 band EQ and transparency levels adjustment etc. Only up to aptX though. You would need to adapt from QDC to other connectors or do a little surgery on them.